Illegal_Carrot
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2009, 11:32:00 am » |
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I'd rather pay the same price to have an MG42 like mg than a shitty .30 cal. Wouldnt you?
I'd love to have the best of both worlds, too, but it aint gonna happen. I run two MGs in my AB battalion, and I have no problems with them. I really don't see how anyone could call them completely useless. |
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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2009, 11:34:07 am » |
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Well 20 munitions..what do you expect.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2009, 11:49:34 am » |
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I use 'em for AP rounds. A machinegun is just too necessary to not have for me.
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AmPM
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« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2009, 11:51:45 am » |
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Speaking of MGs, the brit MG is just god damned amazing.
Suppresses soooo goood.
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« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2009, 11:52:28 am » |
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is someone advocating not using shermans!? wow how stupid can someone be lol.
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« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2009, 11:52:49 am » |
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worthless allied units?
Tank: M18
Vehicle: none really
Support weapon: 30. Cal
Infantry: Vet 3 Riflemen (vet really doesn't help them live.
out of all 30.cal is the worst.
m18 isnot worthless, it eats panzer4s, stugs and hetzers for lunch. |
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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2009, 11:54:53 am » |
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is someone advocating not using shermans!? wow how stupid can someone be lol.
Shermans are good little tanks, just have to be a micro queen with them, cant really be careless and so on with them like panzers and so on due to them dieing so much easier, just wish the upgun sherman would do more damage like the 76mm on both the m10 and m18. |
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« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2009, 11:58:31 am » |
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It means that the Croc can run over anything a KT could.
Though it is a toggle and has to slow right down to use the bulldozer. |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2009, 06:14:59 am » |
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m18 isnot worthless, it eats panzer4s, stugs and hetzers for lunch P4s and Hetzers? Yes Stugs? No. Ask ununoctium about his 23 bounced shots in a row versus a StuG. |
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Demon767
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2009, 06:19:34 am » |
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you do realize that axis infantry get less received suppression from doctrine bufs right?
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2009, 06:24:12 am » |
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you do realize that axis infantry get less received suppression from doctrine bufs right?
Which is pretty much overkill if we only considered teh .30 cal. Wickers and Staghound both suppress good. |
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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2009, 07:14:08 am » |
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you do realize that axis infantry get less received suppression from doctrine bufs right?
Inf doctrine is -ment- to, however i see it doin fuck all for rifles. |
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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2009, 07:48:06 am » |
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m18 isnot worthless, it eats panzer4s, stugs and hetzers for lunch P4s and Hetzers? Yes Stugs? No. Ask ununoctium about his 23 bounced shots in a row versus a StuG. Its a while back but may i add that I had Tungsten tipping when it was at +20% so m18 was bouncing off the front and sides 23 shot sin a row. the 3 shots that penetrated were 1 out of cloak for damge and 1 main gun destroyed and 1 damaged engine. EVERYTHING else DID NOT penetrate. Just bounced off. Now, an M18 without Tipping Sucks so bad that it will bounce off a skirted P4 out of cloak. If you you the 50.cal you're an idiot because if the 50 cal shoots then you lose the ability to pop cloak and get a 50% bonus shot. The m18 has worse accuracy vs infantry than a panther which is quite funny. Without cloak the thing can actually bounce off of pumas. |
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 My tigers get penetrated by everything. Its really really frustrating.
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2009, 09:42:52 am » |
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Imho the hellcat needs better accuracy VS infantry.. not so it makes it a super infy killer but enough to defend itself from a squad of shrecks, I mean really.. missing a squad 15 times in a row is just plain stupid tbh... im thinking of like accuracy that allows it to damage an infantry unit in one shot and maybe kill it in a couple more shots..
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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2009, 09:54:44 am » |
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Imho the hellcat needs better accuracy VS infantry.. not so it makes it a super infy killer but enough to defend itself from a squad of shrecks, I mean really.. missing a squad 15 times in a row is just plain stupid tbh... im thinking of like accuracy that allows it to damage an infantry unit in one shot and maybe kill it in a couple more shots..
No, hellcat is a tank killer, just like marder for example. Leave as it is. |
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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2009, 11:15:09 am » |
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Imho the hellcat needs better accuracy VS infantry.. not so it makes it a super infy killer but enough to defend itself from a squad of shrecks, I mean really.. missing a squad 15 times in a row is just plain stupid tbh... im thinking of like accuracy that allows it to damage an infantry unit in one shot and maybe kill it in a couple more shots..
No, hellcat is a tank killer, just like marder for example. Leave as it is. Yet marders can beat at guns 1v1, m18s cant  M18 cloak shot should always penetrate imo, pain in the arse when you think your being sneaky shoot a panther and it deflects  |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2009, 12:26:48 pm » |
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Marder is an actually good infantry sniper, and it can kill them quite effectively.
Even a 57 mm is better at anti-inf duties than a hellcat is.
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« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2009, 12:28:33 pm » |
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Marder is an actually good infantry sniper, and it can kill them quite effectively.
Bs. Haven't seen them kill infantry ever, except for one or two times where they killed that last engineer or rifleman. |
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« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2009, 12:30:11 pm » |
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The Most Useless Allied Unit award goes to.....the British 2in Mortar Team.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2009, 12:34:25 pm » |
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You would have loved to see it when it got outranged by the MG42 ^^. Bs. Haven't seen them kill infantry ever, except for one or two times where they killed that last engineer or rifleman. They do kill infantry often enough, just I don't think you'll want to stay shooting at an enemy rifle squad when a sherman is charging the marder... |
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