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« on: July 18, 2009, 06:11:55 am »
It appears the weapon stats for this were returned to vanilla? There is no modded weapon entry in the .sga, so I can only assume so.

Why was this done? I never see them anymore anyway...
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 09:51:41 am »
Well? 24 views and we got nothin'.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 09:56:23 am »
Quote from: Malevolence on July 18, 2009, 09:51:41 am
Well? 24 views and we got nothin'.

Well they cost 350MP 150Mun (6pdr: 380Mp 120Mun + Cloak) and the only difference on their stats is the better frontal penetration and 5 more range.

And theres actually nothing in the Engineers Doctrine that has anything to do with the emplacements(bofors/17pder)
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 10:00:04 am »
Bit more durable, but a lot more setup time, too.

I dunno if this thing is worth buying right now, another 5 or 10 range would give it the edge it needs.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 10:02:06 am »
Quote from: Malevolence on July 18, 2009, 10:00:04 am
Bit more durable, but a lot more setup time, too.

I dunno if this thing is worth buying right now, another 5 or 10 range would give it the edge it needs.

lol, remember when 17pdr came in, and our devs gave it a crazy range.. u saw 17pdrs all over.. axis tanks couldnt even venture in that area of map.. it was so, awesome.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 10:02:42 am »
Quote from: Mgallun74 on July 18, 2009, 10:02:06 am
Quote from: Malevolence on July 18, 2009, 10:00:04 am
Bit more durable, but a lot more setup time, too.

I dunno if this thing is worth buying right now, another 5 or 10 range would give it the edge it needs.

lol, remember when 17pdr came in, and our devs gave it a crazy range.. u saw 17pdrs all over.. axis tanks couldnt even venture in that area of map.. it was so, awesome.

That was because there was no such thing as a 6 pounder, or the 17 pounder being limited to only the Royal Engineers doctrine.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 10:04:34 am »
I use them, its my only reliable heavy AT. Thats by choice though, I choose to use all my fuel for Churchills.

They do ok.
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LuAn Offline
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 10:06:31 am »
Quote from: AmPM on July 18, 2009, 10:04:34 am
I use them, its my only reliable heavy AT. Thats by choice though, I choose to use all my fuel for Churchills.

They do ok.

Whats so heavy about them? 6Pdr is almost the same?
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 10:06:52 am »
Better penetration, otherwise nothing.

They're heavy in that they can actually face down something like a Tiger and not just get shot in the face, and indeed actually penetrate it.

But it's still a bit expensive for what it does, I think. Another 5-10 range (no more than that, it would be ridiculous) would work out I think.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2009, 11:54:18 am »
Maybe making them more durable would help, like axis bunkers. Because those don't go down to 2 salvos of double schrecks.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2009, 11:58:07 am »
Nah, they're about as tough.

I'd prefer the range to any extra toughness, really.
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Lemures Offline
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 12:22:48 pm »
Plus any anti inf units will tear down brit emplacements almost as fast as anti tank...
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 06:25:55 am »
The 17 pdr needs more range to be more useful, I agree.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 06:32:10 am »
Im not exactly sure about the 17 pounders range.  It shouldnt be more than a Mortar HT, maybe equal with one?Huh 
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 08:39:14 am »
A mortar HT should never be in direct line of sight as it's target anyway, so not like it should ever be a threat.
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2009, 11:49:07 am »
On some maps you have no choice.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2009, 12:24:36 pm »
Maybe a build time decrease...

It is no where near as effective as it was when EIR brits were simcity.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 01:11:00 pm »
What the range of the 17 pdr anyhow? I know it is only slightly more then a regular AT-gun, but that only because to compensate for the size of the emplacement.
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 02:19:42 pm »
It's 64, IIRC. Isn't actualy any longer "in reality".
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