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Author Topic: Bring the Bergetiger back??  (Read 7636 times)
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spinn72 Offline
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« on: July 22, 2009, 06:16:47 am »

Who wants this awesome vehicle back???  I know i do.  It would be cool if pe could get it, basically what it does is run over units and then as it gains vet it gets Recieved damage/penetration buffs and Speed buffs.  Its the ultimate crushing unit.  It would also balance PE since they have very little with heavy crush (only the panther). 

Make it 300/150 or something (same price as a kangaroo) and 7 pop, but with 2/1/1 availability to avoid spamming.  Give it a bit more speed than it normally has so it can start off decently crushing inf.
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Armfelt Offline
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 06:18:12 am »

Are you also suggesting that it will have a repair ability or just crush?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 06:22:39 am »


BT could be that one exception to the new repair system since it not having repair defeats the fluff of the unit
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CryingWolf Offline
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 06:23:03 am »

So basically you want a tank that has crush....Nothing more, nothing less. Would anyone even THINK about putting that in their company. Only reason I would get it, is so I can repair, but since they don't want Repair Inf/Vech's in the game, It probally won't make an apperence for a while...
But nice to be able to get it as a Doctrine choice or something for the Tank Destroyers. It allows repairs, just not as fast as repair packs obviously.
But like I said, Sounds like the Dev's don't want repair Inf and Vech's in by the sounds and probally good riddance. Still be nice to see the berge though ^^

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BT could be that one exception to the new repair system since it not having repair defeats the fluff of the unit
Thing is with Berge, they don't actually know what it is, apperently its might not even be a repair vech. Theres loads of theorys of what it was, Some being it was used for mine work ect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergetiger

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Raio Offline
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 06:25:19 am »

wht about this, u want it ? Kiss

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Armfelt Offline
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 06:25:40 am »

Sounds more reasonable to give the P4 IST a bulldozer.

Edit: for the right price ofcourse.

Though i donīt think it is really needed with more heavy crush units.
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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 07:20:56 am »

Are you also suggesting that it will have a repair ability or just crush?

Im suggesting it has Crush only due to the HUGE amount of HP and give it a decent speed.  I don't think a mine flail is necessary nor worth taking the time to create.

Heavy crush can do a lot to people, entire inf squads retreat when the CCT comes after theyve been supressed, perhaps a bergetiger can do the same thing (but it can take damage from other units too).  Maybe even just give it 5 oe 6 pop since all it does is run things over.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 07:26:38 am »

Heavy crush can do a lot to people, entire inf squads retreat when the CCT comes after theyve been supressed, perhaps a bergetiger can do the same thing (but it can take damage from other units too).  Maybe even just give it 5 oe 6 pop since all it does is run things over.

You are confused and mistake heavy crush with human crush?

Heavy crush crushes tanktraps and hedges.
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LeoPhone Offline
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 07:52:20 am »

just give it a normal price and leth it recover wrecks. the wrecks dont have repair themselves anyway, and they always start with half health, main gun destroyed or engine damage. and im sure it would be ok, since for the price of a bergertiger you can also just get an extra tank instead of hoping you can revive a half destroyed one ingame.
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Mukip Offline
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 07:59:47 am »

My idea:

Let the bergetiger recover wrecks, but instead of giving you a free unit during the match, it gives you the dead unit back with it's veterancy after the battle.  It would help with the problem of PE light vehicle focus making it hard to retain vet.  Make it cheap and lacking infantry crush so it's a totally passive vehicle.
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Malevolence Offline
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 08:39:42 am »

My idea:

Let the bergetiger recover wrecks, but instead of giving you a free unit during the match, it gives you the dead unit back with it's veterancy after the battle.  It would help with the problem of PE light vehicle focus making it hard to retain vet.  Make it cheap and lacking infantry crush so it's a totally passive vehicle.

If possible.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 09:14:19 am »

Make it cheap and lacking infantry crush so it's a totally passive vehicle.

*Calls out 2 Berges to eat 57 shells as 2 marder snipe down the enemy ATGs*
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Armfelt Offline
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 09:53:18 am »

My idea:

Let the bergetiger recover wrecks, but instead of giving you a free unit during the match, it gives you the dead unit back with it's veterancy after the battle.  It would help with the problem of PE light vehicle focus making it hard to retain vet.  Make it cheap and lacking infantry crush so it's a totally passive vehicle.

If possible.

It ainīt the wreck that got vet, itīs the cremated drivers inside.
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VictorTarget Offline
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 10:45:49 am »

You know, if you brought the berge back, but made it so it could only repair criticals on a tank, then it may be worth it.

Engine damage, immobilized, weapon destroyed...but didn't bring any health back?  Is that possible?  It would cost a huge amount, but some people may use it.
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Malevolence Offline
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 11:14:21 am »

My idea:

Let the bergetiger recover wrecks, but instead of giving you a free unit during the match, it gives you the dead unit back with it's veterancy after the battle.  It would help with the problem of PE light vehicle focus making it hard to retain vet.  Make it cheap and lacking infantry crush so it's a totally passive vehicle.

If possible.

It ainīt the wreck that got vet, itīs the cremated drivers inside.

And only the veterans who have seen battle, not the green recruits being filtered into the squad after 5 of 6 men die every game, have experience.

But experience doesn't dilute either, now does it.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2009, 11:15:39 am »

You know, if you brought the berge back, but made it so it could only repair criticals on a tank, then it may be worth it.

Engine damage, immobilized, weapon destroyed...but didn't bring any health back?  Is that possible?  It would cost a huge amount, but some people may use it.

Time, and time again this is asked...
No, it's absolutely completely impossible, not in the very least.
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VictorTarget Offline
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2009, 11:47:19 am »

Then there's no place in EiR for the berge.

And Mysth, I never saw anyone else ask that, I'm not on here ALL the time.
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LeoPhone Offline
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2009, 12:04:07 pm »

just give it a normal price and leth it recover wrecks. the wrecks dont have repair themselves anyway, and they always start with half health, main gun destroyed or engine damage. and im sure it would be ok, since for the price of a bergertiger you can also just get an extra tank instead of hoping you can revive a half destroyed one ingame.

and my suggestion?....
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 12:47:16 pm »

With the question having been asked roughly 20 times this year alone... Tongue

Ah well, now you know Wink.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:03 pm »

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