Churchill AVRE

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[LuAn]

Right now the AVRE Stats look like that:

Churchill AVRE

AVRE Weapon (Recharges 135 seconds)

410 MP, 240 F, 8 pop

Churchill AVRE (1.0) -Vet1 Received Damage 0.85, Speed 1.10 -Vet2 Turret Rotation 1.2, Range +10, Recharge -30s -Vet3 Received Damage 0.85, Recharge -30s

Id like to propose the following changes:

• Decrease initial CD to 105 seconds.
• Remove the Recharge -30s on Vet2
• Change Turrent Rotation on Vet2  to Wind Up Time Reduced
• Change the Received Damage on Vet3 to Received Penetration

Any thoughts?

Ps.: Those changes arent really my ideas, i just copied and adapted them from here and here here

[salan]

are you asking for the change because you feel the unit does not live up to its population, and cost as well as role in game?

[LuAn]

are you asking for the change because you feel the unit does not live up to its population, and cost as well as role in game?

Thats a good question.

Lets see if i can get a proper answer:
First of all those werent actually my ideas, other people came up with them for various reasons.
I always like to compare the AVRE to the Stuh, whereas the StuH currently looks like this:

StuH 42

StuH Weapon (Reloads 7-8 seconds) Fires about every 14 seconds

380 MP, 180 F, 8 pop

T1 Unlock 25pp

StuH (1.0) -Vet1 Received Damage 0.9 -Vet2 Damage 1.2, Accuracy 1.15, Received Damage 0.85 -Vet3 Received Penetration 0.8, Speed 1.15

So my reason to ask for those change is to bring the AVRE into a somewhat better proportion to the StuH.

[LeoPhone]

avre is freaking great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at vet 2....

that range and timer difference is massive, maybe change that a bit.

or.... just leth the devs fix the AVRE and pershing from not crashing the game instead of makin mini changes wasting their time.

[Jazlizard]

Don't agree with your changes.

The only thing that looks worthless is the turret rotation TBH, but the other bonuses are so good for vet 2, you could probably just take it out and no one would notice.

The AVRE basically 1 hits any non vehicle every 135 seconds (105 at vet 2, 75 at vet 3).

[LeoPhone]

now i kno it! change the -30 sec cooldown to higher rotation speed!

it rly sucks right now, and you just cant get away if youre under fire becouse of the slow rotation speed of the tank. change it so you can keep it alive, and you can point the front of ur tank to enemies be4 you shoot = more micro = good i guess.

[AmPM]

Its pretty much fine as is actually. Annihilates emplacements and blobs, good vs support weapons and buttoned light vehicles.

The timer reduction is a large part of what makes it work really well as well as the +10 range. The time it takes to fire means you need skill to use it, which is good.

Its actually fairly easy to get one from vet 0 to vet 2 in a single game.

[spinn72]

AVRE becomes amazing if:

1.  You get it to Vet2
2.  You get the T3

I think someone worked it out to be 55 or 50 second reload time after youve maxed it out (vet3 and T3 unlock).  Now that means an entire squad annihalated every minute from a range where they cannot really see you (most inf have 40 sight i think, this has 45 range) or get enough warning.  It's also really survivable after the 2 recieved damage 0.85 (it adds up to recieved damage 0.68), and if you dont want it to miss (or you want more range) throw a CCT on it.

[AmPM]

ITs 61 seconds with vet 3 and the t3.

Which makes it a beast.

[LuAn]

Oke, considering all those various factors i declare my suggestion to be obsolete, thread lock please.