So an airbourne tier 2 a little too powerfull? Hard n fast/ cheap and easy

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[HansVonLuk]

airbourne tier 2 , Hard n Fast airbourne and rifleman gain 15% less receaved accuracy

Blitz tier 3, Battle hardened infantry receaved 15% less acuracy

Luftwaffe tier 3, Fallshirmjager get 15% more health and 20% more accuracry.

yes blitz effects all infantry, but then again what else do airbourne use as infantry orther than airbourne and rifles.  So should the airbounre be a tier 3 abilltie??

It almost negates the falls increase of 20% accuracy and its only a tier 2.

Maybe Hard n fast should be a tier three, especially considering the amount of airbourne and rifle men fielded.

[Mukip]

The AB tier 2 doesn't benefit flamer engies or any other elite inf you unlock with reinforcements.  The Blitz doc affects Pios, Grenadiers, Storm Troopers, Volksgrenadiers, KCH and presumably any other infantry you unlock via reinforcements and Wehr units are generally tougher than rifles.

The Luft tier 3 is also completely different and gives two buffs instead of one so I don't see why you are comparing them, unless you think anything that gives a recieved accuracy buff is unfair because it "negates" Kurts Finest.  From doctrines and veterancy many units recieve all sorts of accuracy and recieved accuracy buffs so I think that's the wrong way of looking at it.

[CafeMilani]

airbourne tier 2 , Hard n Fast airbourne and rifleman gain 15% less receaved accuracy

you need 4 PGs with group zeal to get such a buff
groupzeal is a t3.
groupzeal need +2% per man modifiers not 1.2

[LuAn]

airbourne tier 2 , Hard n Fast airbourne and rifleman gain 15% less receaved accuracy

you need 4 PGs with group zeal to get such a buff
groupzeal is a t3.
groupzeal need +2% per man modifiers not 1.2

You do realise that 1.2 would mean 120%
And

Check here:
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=11157.0
If those notes are correct it already is at 20%, a modifier of 1.20 is 120%, per man

Please dont do this again

[CafeMilani]

you have no clue :/
do you even know what zeal/group zeal is?

[LuAn]

http://coh-stats.com/Ability:Group_Zeal
http://coh-stats.com/Ability:Zeal
zeal =/= group zeal

And please dont insult me again.

[deadbolt]

The AB tier 2 doesn't benefit flamer engies or any other elite inf you unlock with reinforcements.  The Blitz doc affects Pios, Grenadiers, Storm Troopers, Volksgrenadiers, KCH and presumably any other infantry you unlock via reinforcements and Wehr units are generally tougher than rifles.

The Luft tier 3 is also completely different and gives two buffs instead of one so I don't see why you are comparing them, unless you think anything that gives a recieved accuracy buff is unfair because it "negates" Kurts Finest.  From doctrines and veterancy many units recieve all sorts of accuracy and recieved accuracy buffs so I think that's the wrong way of looking at it.

DEFEND MUDKIPS AIRBOURNE AT ALL COST!

+1 Mukip

PLUS ONE!

[HansVonLuk]

The AB tier 2 doesn't benefit flamer engies or any other elite inf you unlock with reinforcements.  The Blitz doc affects Pios, Grenadiers, Storm Troopers, Volksgrenadiers, KCH and presumably any other infantry you unlock via reinforcements and Wehr units are generally tougher than rifles.

The Luft tier 3 is also completely different and gives two buffs instead of one so I don't see why you are comparing them, unless you think anything that gives a recieved accuracy buff is unfair because it "negates" Kurts Finest.  From doctrines and veterancy many units recieve all sorts of accuracy and recieved accuracy buffs so I think that's the wrong way of looking at it.

Your aibourne and only use 2 squad types, unless you use reienforcemnts. If you use reinforcements you probably should get more airbourne,  espicially with this kind of cheap uber buff.  oh no u only really use 3 type of infantry not like WM, so you cover all but one of them.  This should be 10 % at tier 2.

[Mukip]

There's less reason to go for AB reinforcements now since it only add 2 more AB squads instead of previous 4, and now there's a T3 that adds another 4 AB squads.  Anyway it could be 10%, not like it makes a massive difference.

[HansVonLuk]

There's less reason to go for AB reinforcements now since it only add 2 more AB squads instead of previous 4, and now there's a T3 that adds another 4 AB squads.  Anyway it could be 10%, not like it makes a massive difference.

Make airbourne more difficult to kill for a cheap tier 2, when they are already ready a difficulty unit  to kill as they have fire up and 420 health.  But 10% would be fine, we can agree there.

[Mukip]

15% is not fine but 10% is fine?  Er, fine.

[HansVonLuk]

15% is not fine but 10% is fine?  Er, fine.

Yes, to keep it in line with the fact that its a tier 2

[Larslolapa1]

too much bias, head asplode

[Sharpshooter824]

Umm Brits RE doctrine Gets T1 that give I think all infantry 10% less receieved accuracy in cover.. 10% without cover as a T2 for only AB and rifles seems rather weak

[Sach]

what about riflemen tier 3 15% health, how does that stack up to the FJs who get accuracy too!

When will the madness end!?

[Unkn0wn]

airbourne tier 2 , Hard n Fast airbourne and rifleman gain 15% less receaved accuracy

It sais: On the move as far as I know. =/= All the time.

[pernik]

airbourne tier 2 , Hard n Fast airbourne and rifleman gain 15% less receaved accuracy

It sais: On the move as far as I know. =/= All the time.

No, it doesn't At least for me