Veterancy = easy to get?

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[BigDick]

i think the current vet system is very good

some units need to go up in xp requirements e.g. pershing or airbornes but to make vet only affordable by very good players is not the way to go

because all casual gamers and new eir community members will loose their motivation to play when they don't even get vet beside many loses

if you think someone has much vet and is just a bad player/teamplayer who counts his xp of his hundreds of vet units after each game
just smurf him and vet hunt him

problem solved

[AmPM]

Mysthalin, the problem with vet only giving minor bonuses is that having your infantry fight to the end then outweighs the benefit of vet.

Vet needs to be harder to get, harder to keep, and very effective.

[Smokaz]

Mysthalin, the problem with vet only giving minor bonuses is that having your infantry fight to the end then outweighs the benefit of vet.

Vet needs to be harder to get, harder to keep, and very effective.

1 way to achieve that is to remove any defensive bonuses from vet other than the vet 3 cover bonuses from some unit types as this was a nice new gig from the devs

[AmPM]

And remove bonuses from retreat =)

Actually, a better way would be to only add defensive vet to units. There is no reason they should be doing more damage. And from a realistic point of view, veterans rarely shoot much better than green soldiers, they just get better at using cover and tactics.

[Smokaz]

How will that make vet harder to keep if all their bonuses are defensive?

[deadbolt]

and with no attack bonuses units just wont die, i dont want a game of tommies vs grens for 20 mins, neither doing any damage

[Smokaz]

and with no attack bonuses units just wont die, i dont want a game of tommies vs grens for 20 mins, neither doing any damage

Sssshhh thats tactics

[deadbolt]

i ment just 1 gren vs 1 tommy for 20 mins, its wasnt ment to be plural. your spam is safe smokaz, LOL.

[AmPM]

Because when you hit retreat they will not run faster or have any accuracy bonus?

Lose the position by being overrun, lose your mans.

And by defensive it doesn't mean just HP. Even with defensive buffs any unit with a high damage weapon should clear out another one in 30 seconds or so. It just means your vets won't kill a squad in 10 seconds or less instead.

[Mysthalin]

Mysthalin, the problem with vet only giving minor bonuses is that having your infantry fight to the end then outweighs the benefit of vet.

Vet needs to be harder to get, harder to keep, and very effective.

Vet hordes eating through anything, IMO, is a much worse problem than anything. It doesn't even take that long to get a vet horde - at the beginning of a war, there's no off-maps and dedicated vet-hunt companies to kill your vet. Even with my break-neck, no-respect-for-my-units armor assaults I managed to get the first 2 vet 3 tanks in the mod when 006 came out - I doubt I'd get that in 5 games again if I tried right now .

[bristiler]

veterancy should take some work to get, and shouldnt be handed out. The amount out already, as previously stated, is because of the unending war. Honestly everyone should vet hunt unless the person who has the vet is someone you play with consistently. It doesnt make sense to "be nice" and let their units run by and come back to kill your vet the next game. war is ruthless and thats how this war should be. So (and I do it to) quit crying about being hunted.