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Rocksitter Offline
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« on: August 10, 2009, 09:57:04 pm »

 Just wondering about the Luftwaffe and why they need 3 AT half tracks cant we just get a medium tank they are Panzer elite....

 I was thinking Hetzer ,P3, Stug ,P4 something to make them Panzer Elite......
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 09:58:58 pm »

Panzer Elite is a catch all name, it has nothing to do with them using tanks. Its based on an Armored Recon unit with other special stuff attached. Basically, a Kampfgruppe.
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 10:06:28 pm »

http://images.google.com/images?q=Kampfgruppe.&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=yO2ASuOwE42wsgOjnbH2CA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4

 image search  Kampfgruppe

 notice the reoccurring theme...

 Tanks
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 10:23:31 pm »

You do know a Kampfgruppe is just a grouping of units from different organizations under a single commander put together for (usually) a specific mission.

"The Kampfgruppe was an ad-hoc combined arms formation, usually employing combination of tanks, infantry, and artillery (including anti-tank) elements, generally organised for a particular task or operation. A Kampfgruppe could range in size from a corps to a company , but the most common was an Abteilung (battalion)-sized formation. Kampfgruppen were generally referred to by either their commanding officer's name or the parent division."

You have tanks, the IST, the Hotchkiss, and the Panther (the common medium tank of late war germany).
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 01:55:38 am »

I had these in mind for tanks, why not add them to Panzer Elite....

 




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BigDick
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 02:38:30 am »

panzerIII is not elite and panzerIV ist is part of panzerelite
why do they need the stuh?

i know that they have much crappy things the devs always said that they want to make them good using doctrines and veterancy

a P4 long barrel would be all they need as medium battle tank that can take some hits and help vs tanks and vs infantry
and that was in the reinforcements package
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 03:14:43 am »

The sole thing the Panzer Elite could possibly "need" is a panzer 4 75 mm, and I do believe it will stay in a reinforcements package.
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 03:21:03 am »

 Right like the Commandos needed a sniper more than Panzer Elite need tanks ...

 or Airborn medic the Luff have no med paks or healing stations..

 
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 03:21:50 am »

luft are getting healing
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 03:26:38 am »

Thank you for ignoring the fact the commando sniper is a T3.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 03:28:38 am »

PE are seriously well rounded in terms of vehicles. Theres so many types of light vehiles ou can bring in for any situation, scouting, kiting tanks, anti tank, tank crits, anti infantry, espionage (vamp)

the IS is an excellent infantry fighting tank, you just can't solo it like you can with p4's and stug/h vs infantry, you use it as support to infantry. I constantly vet those babies up to at least vet 2 before they die. Then you also get panthers, hotchkiss are a lot more dangerous now with the m8 gun (i took out 3 tanks in a game with one before) i dont think much needs to be changed if anything to PE.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 03:29:08 am »

although being able to get a stuh would be sweet...
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 03:44:37 am »

Thank you for ignoring the fact the commando sniper is a T3.

 I am not ignoring anything did I state what fashion the tank would come in NO so thanks for ignoring that..

 I also did not mention the Luftwaffe Veteran is a T3...
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2009, 03:58:09 am »

I do think PE could use a few more vehicles (mainly med tanks), for several reasons.
Mainly, as Rocksitter said, because they currently have  HTs out the ass (which are hella-flimsy), but no real tanks. The Stubby is a real niche unit, and the Panther's too expensive to be a MBT.
Normally, I'd agree that PE don't need much more in the way of units, but with everyone getting all sorts of new and neat shit (especially in the way of entirely new units), why not give some to PE?
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 04:27:49 am »

How about PE get the panther at 2/1 availability? It would allow me to get 3 of them without too much of a PP strain, and I want a 3x Panther company ;(.
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2009, 04:28:38 am »

Umm ......... no
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2009, 04:32:13 am »

How about PE get the panther at 2/1 availability? It would allow me to get 3 of them without too much of a PP strain, and I want a 3x Panther company ;(.

 How about you start your own thred instead of making useless comets in mine...
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2009, 08:12:13 am »

Just wait until reinforcements are back in the game and quit complaining about something that shouldn't happen.

PE have more than enough to deal with anything thrown at them right now.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2009, 08:36:38 am »

PE have more than enough to deal with that gets crushed by anything thrown at them right now.

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2009, 09:43:12 am »

Lmao I find atm PE way more easy then wehr tbh.
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