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« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2009, 02:43:08 am »

No, the chance to penetrate is 0.878 with a schrek vs sherman.

The Wind Up time only causes a problem if you try to run them over.

and has my schrecks ever not been run over. "enn" "oh"
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« Reply #121 on: August 21, 2009, 05:34:23 am »

the chance to penetrate is different to the chance to hit and to penetrate

the last case is 0.35*0.878 is 0.307 i hope my formulation is clear now

the chance to get a penetrating hit with RR to unskirted p4 is 1

and who ever has an unskirted p4?
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« Reply #122 on: August 21, 2009, 05:55:25 am »

the chance to penetrate is different to the chance to hit and to penetrate

the last case is 0.35*0.878 is 0.307 i hope my formulation is clear now

the chance to get a penetrating hit with RR to unskirted p4 is 1

and who ever has an unskirted p4?
True that - I've never seen a single P4 without skirts this war.
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« Reply #123 on: August 21, 2009, 06:40:18 am »

Because of the Airbornephobia everyone has now.
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« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2009, 09:23:08 am »

yeah because airborne make you buy skirts

the fact that they are available for like 45 mu and you don't need vet for it doesn't matter at all.
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« Reply #125 on: August 21, 2009, 09:49:03 am »

yeah because airborne make you buy skirts

the fact that they are available for like 45 mu and you don't need vet for it doesn't matter at all.

That's it, you totally got it. Wink

And skirts cost 60 mun, get your facts right.
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« Reply #126 on: August 21, 2009, 10:11:24 am »

Actually, I don't buy skirts for AB, RRs go through them anyway. I buy them to keep zooks from raping my tank.
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wildsolus Offline
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« Reply #127 on: August 21, 2009, 11:00:00 am »

yeah because airborne make you buy skirts

the fact that they are available for like 45 mu and you don't need vet for it doesn't matter at all.

That's it, you totally got it. Wink

And skirts cost 60 mun, get your facts right.

shit that's way to expensive.

i could buy like 4 medkits for that!! that's way more effective.
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« Reply #128 on: August 21, 2009, 01:26:18 pm »

yeah because airborne make you buy skirts

the fact that they are available for like 45 mu and you don't need vet for it doesn't matter at all.



And skirts cost 60 mun, get your facts right.

for me, yes

shit that's way to expensive.

i could buy like 4 medkits for that!! that's way more effective.
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« Reply #129 on: August 22, 2009, 01:22:40 am »

Actually, I don't buy skirts for AB, RRs go through them anyway. I buy them to keep zooks from raping my tank.
RRs are the only thing worth buying Skirts for; Zooks are only a problem if they have TR or are spammed (rare), PIATs are hardly affected.

But the amount/effective of RRs mean they you've got to do everything you possibly can (which includes Skirts) to even have a chance against them.
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« Reply #130 on: August 22, 2009, 01:24:19 am »

Skirts don't really stop you getting raped by RRs. They do stop you getting raped by random Zook hits.
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« Reply #131 on: August 22, 2009, 01:27:54 am »

Skirts just prolong the inevitable.
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« Reply #132 on: August 25, 2009, 09:32:54 pm »

Skirts just prolong the inevitable.

Yeah, honestly, what is 10% when the hits coming in are 187 each, it still takes less than 4. In the case of RRs, it may take one less over-all, but how often does it come down to an exact tally like that... tanks are usually have like 43 health and the last AT round wastes 107 damage or whatever.
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« Reply #133 on: August 25, 2009, 09:36:03 pm »

skirts also take away 10% damage from shermans, and its 25% damage and penetration against all infantry AT.
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