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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2009, 03:42:51 pm »

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and besides thats how the game is anyways. the allies can afford more specilized weapons then the axis it just comes down to who uses them.

Hm not really...
Mortars,ATG,HMG,HHAT

and i do agree that some parts are abit HUH? like 2 bars for 80Mu, can be argued either way comparing to 1 LMG

but in any case, Allies have cheaper less effective weaponry than axis.. most of the time. i believe thats something we can all agree on

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If they were implemented it would be the death of regular shermans and probably P4s.

Possibly, i know i would buy the easy 8 over a ungunned sherman if i know its going to destroy a p4 with any upgrades, but then who knows what it may costs, 420mp, 80mu, 260fu? sure but it doesnt stop people from spamming 5 of them, that what i would do.
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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2009, 04:07:32 pm »

Thanks Baine sorry my type XD

Yeah I agree that allies have cheaper, less effective weaponry.  I'd kill for the mass suppression of axis tanks on shermans, amazing stuff.  And if there were Easy Eights that guarenteed me a good fight against P4s I'd totally buy them, but in the meantime we'd just have to hope the 76mm sherman gets that role.

Now to Demon77, the problem is all P4s are skirted, I rarely see an unskirted P4 unless it's a new player.  So that means generally the sherman will lose unless it gets real lucky due to its slightly slower rate of fire against the skirts 10% less damage from Shermans (I belive that stat is right).  I do would like to know what specialized platforms we have compared to axis?  Allies are 'generalist', the AI and AT rangers and airborne, the multi purpose sherman, the all-around riflemen... then you look at axis... Superior Mortar, Superior KCH who deal with Anti-inf, Grens that can specialize as really good anti inf with lmgs or shreks for anti tank, Panther which is great against tanks, StuH specialist tanks, stormtroopers with mp44 for sudden ambushes, etc.

Allies are about their basic units and giving upgrades to let them handle other threats 'okay' or improve their current focus a bit (BARs), Axis are the ones with a great variety of troops and roles.
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« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2009, 04:32:00 pm »

If I may quote draken:
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I can beat a lvl 8 ally with a new axis company,
but I cant beat a lvl 8 axis with a brand new allied company
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« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2009, 06:45:53 pm »

I'd kill for the mass suppression of axis tanks on shermans, amazing stuff.
The MG of the Sherman and the MG of the P4 deal a similar amount of suppression per second, with the Sherman being actuall slightly better.

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Now to Demon77, the problem is all P4s are skirted, I rarely see an unskirted P4 unless it's a new player.  So that means generally the sherman will lose unless it gets real lucky due to its slightly slower rate of fire against the skirts 10% less damage from Shermans (I belive that stat is right).
A 76mm Sherman should beat a P4 (even a Skirted one) every time. The only time a 76mm will lose is if you get very unlucky.

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Allies are about their basic units and giving upgrades to let them handle other threats 'okay' or improve their current focus a bit (BARs), Axis are the ones with a great variety of troops and roles.
I don't think I agree with this. To label one side as 'generalists' and one side as 'specialists' seems pretty silly to me; Axis and Allies have a variety of both general and specialist units.
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