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[Two]

Level 8 accounts and 0 pp cost for docs and advantages for everyone!


pl0x but we are at that stage where its needed imo, it will also help find bugs.

[EIRRMod]

Last time we did all vet 8, 0pp, we lost ~25% of our player base.

So, HELL NO. 

[panzerman]

lol.  that would have been cool.

though then u would get bored.

[shockcoil]

Yeah but we lost the whiney 25%. Maybe if you do it again we'll get rid of the rest of them too!

[Mysthalin]

We lost 25 percent because the free lvl 8 lasted too long, and some particularly annoying gimmicks were schemed (which have now been ironed out).
If we did lvl 8 for this last stretch until the patch, for just a short time, I'm pretty certain it would not be damaging to the playerbase.

[Two]

lol.  that would have been cool.

though then u would get bored.

Hardly, you get bored when you want to play a new doctrine but have to work it up again, or you want to change your t2 or something.

[Aggamemnon]

It's not boredom, it's lazyness.

I keep playing my Arty, not because I am bored, I just can't be bothered to level up my AB/Blitz accounts.
I have fun with all my accounts, just don't have the time/energy to level too many up, so it's easier to just play my level 8.

[Akranadas]

maybe we could have a contest

[Two]

Person to be banned from the forums most, top 5 get lvl 8 accounts.


I reckon im in the top 5 Ill take my Two account as lvl 8 blitz pl0x

[BradAnderson]

But, your a bellend and i've only just got lvl 8 on only account this war, why would i wanna throw all that away?

[roflmao]

If it implies losing 25% of this mod's player base then I echo Lucifer's statement: Hell no.

Although, it would be a hell of a lot of fun to have an airborne only company .

[Two]

But, your a bellend and i've only just got lvl 8 on only account this war, why would i wanna throw all that away?

Ive had about 4 lvl 8 accounts thing war all fully vetted, and keep deleting cos i get bored of the same doctrine.

[anthony210]

Having everything given to me defeats the purpose of the mod, and from experiancing the last time this was attempted a lot of people stop playing.

The patch is supposed to be this weekend right?  Will there be a rest with the patch?

[Leafedge]

It's not boredom, it's lazyness.

It's true that the mod is based on persistencey, and that there needs to be some advantages to playing for a long time, but please, don't go and start calling those who don't want to play tons of games just so they can actually start playing "lazy." EiR is a game, not a second job, and it should be fun every step of the way, and ideally not take that long to get to a point where you can have the maximum amount of fun. At least, you should be able to fill out your doctrine tree quickly. Vet is another matter though.

Anyway, main point is that the dev team needs to keep priorities straight (not that I think that they are currently wrong).

Fun > A grind for E-penis.

The persistencey element is there to give you a sense of accomplishment, and thus add to the fun.

[deadbolt]

and its not fun for new players vs lvl 8 full vet 3 companies, you'll lose more of your player base from that more than anythin

[anthony210]

Whats the point of having a war if were just gonna give everyone free pps in the end anyway.  Build your company up like everyone else.

[Tymathee]

Whats the point of having a war if were just gonna give everyone free pps in the end anyway.  Build your company up like everyone else.

+1 quit bein lazy, takes about 20-30 games to get to lvl 8.

[Piotrskivich]

Whats the point of having a war if were just gonna give everyone free pps in the end anyway.  Build your company up like everyone else.

Yup,

What is the point of a war?

FREE PP FOR ALL!

Why play a game where you are punished for not being an addict?

[anthony210]

If thats the case why have a PP system at all...

Lets just give everyone all the doctrine choices from the get go and do away with the PP system.  Free abilities as well since we dont want people who dont play enough to save SP to not have those extra off maps and abilities eh.

In fact why not make all units vet 3 as well because you know,  casual players dont play enough to get their units to vet 3 so its unfair.  Lets make everything vet 3. 

Oh and also new players arent skilled enough to compete with veteran players so lets give them all sorts of free stuff and advantages so they can beat those veteran players.

This is the mentality that some in this mod are starting to have and it really defeats the whole point of the mod.  This is a perstistant mod,  your supposed to build your company from the ground up.  If everything is handed to you it really defeats the purpose.

As tym said it takes maybe 20 or so games to get to lvl 8.  In that time you should be able to unlock most or all of your doctrines as well as gained some veteran units.  If you play like 1 game a day it will take you 20 days.

[Warlight]

If thats the case why have a PP system at all...

Lets just give everyone all the doctrine choices from the get go and do away with the PP system.  Free abilities as well since we dont want people who dont play enough to save SP to not have those extra off maps and abilities eh.

In fact why not make all units vet 3 as well because you know,  casual players dont play enough to get their units to vet 3 so its unfair.  Lets make everything vet 3. 

Oh and also new players arent skilled enough to compete with veteran players so lets give them all sorts of free stuff and advantages so they can beat those veteran players.

This is the mentality that some in this mod are starting to have and it really defeats the whole point of the mod.  This is a perstistant mod,  your supposed to build your company from the ground up.  If everything is handed to you it really defeats the purpose.

As tym said it takes maybe 20 or so games to get to lvl 8.  In that time you should be able to unlock most or all of your doctrines as well as gained some veteran units.  If you play like 1 game a day it will take you 20 days.

Your overreacting, I do it sometimes to.  Fact is, i'm not playing till theres a new patch. 

There was an idea floating around that PP for Doctrains should scale base the overall point that the war was in.  I lliked that idea. 

All the persistancy you need can be done with vet.  But I don't hae time to over react or rant right now.