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Speigass
banzai
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Posts: 114
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #20 on:
October 02, 2009, 02:09:56 am »
Whermacht/PE:
Panzerjäger Bren 731(e)
The Panzerschreck also constituted the main armament of what was probably the first armored vehicle in history equipped with AT rockets, the Panzerjäger Bren 731(e) ("tank hunter" Bren, consecutive foreign vehicle type number 731, "e" for english origin). The original german tank hunter bren in actionconcept of a small tank saw the development of a vehicle in the 6 - 10 ton range under the designation E-5 Wanze ("bedbug"). (see below).
In the meantime the germans had captured a number of the english Bren carrier armoured tracked vehicles during the course of the war. They were found most useful and therefore used in german service under the foreign-vehicle designation Bren 731(e).
Among other uses - most served as machine-gun carriers, others were equipped with 3,7cm PaK AT guns as tank hunters - they were converted to improvised tank destroyers with a mount of three Panzerschreck tubes and utilised by the Panzer-Zerstörergruppen ("tank-destroyer groups") who also took with them other AT weapons such as the Panzerfaust. The conversions were done by the field maintenance shops. The Bren vehicle had a length of 3.65m (12 ft.), a width of 2.05m (6 ft. 9 in.) and a height of 1.60m (5 ft. 2 in.). It weighed 4 tons, was armoured up to 12mm (0.47 in.) and used an 85hp Ford V-8 engine that made the little tank destroyer comparably agile and enabled it of speeds of up to 35mph. The Panzerjäger Bren was used mainly on the Eastern Front.
The triple RPzB 54 mounts which can be seen in the picture was also fitted to some SdKfz 251 halftracks and even Kübelwagen jeeps; in the army administrative papers of Jan. 15th 1945 a detailed instruction for the mounting of triple Panzerschreck launchers onto SdKfz 251 armored halftrack personnel carriers was publicized which was intended for the tank-hunters of the mechanized infantry Panzergrenadier-battallions.
Although for ingame balance 1 shrek mount would be enough. Also some other light vehicle could be used like swimwagen or halftracks.
Concept of mounting handheld AT on light vehicles could be used in allied armies also
.
All stats same as vanilla bren just add 1 PE shrek (lower dmg) and add 150 ammo cost. No trasport capacity. Vet could include - moving accuracy increase and cover bonus.
Finnaly you get low pop, high mobility and high munition cost vechicle, which is rather fragile. Could be perfect to supplement Wher vehicle based AT department.
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Baine
Steven Spielberg
Posts: 3713
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #21 on:
October 02, 2009, 02:50:56 am »
Sanitätskraftwagen I Ausf. A
Health
~400
Sight
30
Cost
300 Manpower 80 Munitions 100 Fu
Population
4
Max Speed
2.5
Acceleration
1.2
Deceleration
1
Rotation
20
Pool Value
2
Damage
0 (maybe give an MG upgrade for selfdefense, that is similar to Priest MG)
Armour
- Stug Armour
Healing aura that is bigger than the scout car. Has to be set up to heal. Much like a Wehrmacht Airborne Medic team.
Human crush
: true
Heavy crush
: false
Veterancy gain
: Could either be none at all, or like Cromwell Command tank it could gain Vet through units nearby killing enemies, same rate.
Upgrades
: Priest top MG (70 mun), Sideskirts(50mun), Repairkit (30 mun), Smoke canister(20 mun/Vet3)
Veterancy:
Vet1: Recieved Damage 0.85
Vet2: Recieved Damage 0.85, Healingrate +10%
Vet3: Recieved Penetration 0.9, Smoke canister available
Role:
Wehrmacht is the only race that doesn't have a healing station, so i thought it would be a different use, instead of medkits. It's a light/medium tank, that can stay at the front line, but won't withstand everything.
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Baine
Steven Spielberg
Posts: 3713
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #22 on:
October 02, 2009, 02:58:42 am »
T48 57mm GMC
Basically the american 50 mm halftruck.
Upgrades:
Repairkit (25 mun)
Role:
I would see it as mobile AT, that's cheaper than a tank destroyer. It's a fast moving 57mm without AP rounds though.
I could see it as part of Armour Company, but then again it would possibly fit into Infantry aswell. It shouldn't be affected by Tank reapers though, because that would be over the top, same with AP rounds me thinks.
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NightRain
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3908
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #23 on:
October 02, 2009, 03:15:49 am »
Tier 3 Unlock for Defensive Doctorine
210mm Nebelwerfer 42
Basically the same Nebelwerfer with extra price and extra range.
Most of the Stats are exactly same, except its Speed is slower Like 1-1.5 units slower, fires different Shells, has longer reload and better range.
Range:
100 + Nebelwerfers current range.
210 Rocket Barrage. 6 Shells, no Incindiary Effect. Rocket Artillery Shell stats
Price:
500 Manpower 45 Munitions 175 Fuel.
Pop:
10
Pool Value:
5
Cooldown:
210 Rocket Barrage 400 seconds
Buyable Upgrades.
Smoke Barrage
50 munitions
: High intensity 6 shell Smoke barrage.
Cooldown
200 for both abilities
Medkits
15 munitions
.
Veterancy levels
Vet 1 30xp
Vet 2 80xp
Vet 3 170xp
Veterancy:
Vet 1 Speed 1.0
Vet 2 Received Accuracy 0.9, AOE 0.75, Recharge -20s
Vet 3 Recharge -20s, Damage 1.3
Model suggestion. Increase the size of 150mm to make it slightly bigger.
Firing: Fires 6 Nebelwerfer shells, only explodes in ground contact like RA shell.
+Powerful Artillery piece cable of damaging vehicles and infantry
+Useful Smoke barrage to cover up quick attacks
+Useful when both sides are entrentched
+Can destroy units more effectively
-Easy to Counter Barrage
-Expensive
-Costs 10 pop to keep on field
-Moves slowly
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GeneralGlacko
EIR Veteran
Posts: 134
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #24 on:
October 02, 2009, 03:30:52 am »
Do i really need to repeat myself over and over again?
The 15cm sIG 33 auf Panzerkampfwagen I Ausf B.
A short range artillery piece with Stuh Damage and arch but a longer range overall.
8pop and 180fu
Veterancy(could be the same as the ht stuka)
Also a similar version of this on the hetzer.
There were also other verisons of the sIG on things like the Panzer 2 and Panzer 38T chassis.
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Speigass
banzai
EIR Veteran
Posts: 114
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #25 on:
October 02, 2009, 03:36:40 am »
M6-GMC
4 pop. 200 manpower. 30 fuel.
Vet should include. Vehicle cover and moving accuracy improvement.
It is heavier (+100hp) jeep with greyhound gun. Can ambush when stationary (aka m18). Can not fire directly in front, only sides and back.
Its role to harass lone cappers in gangs or setup hit and run ambushes.
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Draken
Chess master
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1850
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #26 on:
October 02, 2009, 05:15:09 am »
Pz.Kpfw IX "Goering"
Tier 4 Unlock for Terror Company
"Goerings monster"
Almost perfect construction takes it's best from famous King Tiger and Tiger. It has no weak points like Tiger or King Tiger, there is no rear armor!
"Build in" panzerfear makes it impossible to flank, reliable tank (oh come on who looks on occasional threabreaks).
Price: 3001 Manpower 1250 fuel
Pop: 25
Pool Value: -5
Buyable Upgrades.
Extra fuel for 5 extra 5 minutes, cost 100 fuel. Smoke 50 munis.
Veterancy levels
Vet 1 200xp
Vet 2 800xp
Vet 3 2000xp
Veterancy:
Vet 1 Experienced mechanics makes lower chance of threadbreak 20%
Vet 2 Can cammo in yellow cover
Vet 3 Flank speed.
Model suggestion. Just mix KTs and Tiger model scale 2.
+KT fans gonna cream their pants
+Useful Smoke barrage to cover up quick attacks from flanks.
+It's wreck is not crushable can block roads.
+In theory best tank in the game (best armor, best gun)
+Uses the best experience from Tiger and King Tiger construction
-Not noob friendly
-Expensive
-Fuel and track problems
-You have to stay on the roads to use it's max speed of 1
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Mukip
EIR Veteran
Posts: 450
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #27 on:
October 02, 2009, 05:35:55 am »
British Paratroopers.
T3 doctrine "Arnhem Veterans" adds Paratroopers, Paratrooper Lt. and Paradropped 6 Pdr AT gun for the Commando doctrine intended to replace Tommies, Lts and 6 Pdrs and give the option to field a full airborne force along with Commando Support weapons, tetrarchs etc.
The Paratroopers use parachutes and Commandos keep their gliders, they are meant to deploy separately since they have somewhat different roles.
Paratroopers:
300 Manpower, 6 man squad. (cost would need playtesting)
Upgrades: Brens, rifle grenades.
*They have Commando stats and Tommy equipment (no stens or smoke grenades). Commandos with Tommy upgrades basically similar to Airborne Riflemen.
Paradropped 6Pdr Atg
400 Manpower, 110 Munitions
*Obviously, Commandos manning an Atg.
Paratroop Regiment Officer
170 Manpower, 40 munitions
*Just an Lt. who paradrops.
There is a Commando model in the PE campaign that uses a helmet instead of a beret that would be perfect and fairly straightforward to use. I think there are already too many unit unlocks in the Commando tree though, so I suggest merging Commando Jeeps and Tetrarchs as a tier 1 or something (they aren't used that much anyway so encourage Tetrarchs a bit).
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Last Edit: October 02, 2009, 05:43:37 am by Mukip
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StonewaII
EIR Regular
Posts: 6
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #28 on:
October 02, 2009, 06:01:26 am »
Area Denial Special Unit (Scortched Earth)
PzKpfw II Flammpanzer II Ausf.D “Flamingo”
I would like to propose an area denial unit for the scorched earth doctrine. I think it fits the theme quite nicely.
Design
The PzKpfw II Ausf D and PzKpfw II Ausf E were unsatifactory in the field due to their suspension and many were converted to other uses. One of these was to have two flame throwers placed on the front track covers. These flame throwers had a range of about 35 - 40 yards and were mounted on trackguards on each side in special turret-like cases (Spitzkopfe) that allowed them to operate at 180 degrees radius. There was also a machine gun for self defense.
Each flame-thrower had its own fuel tank with 160 liters capacity which was enough to fire 80 "shots" at the maximum range of 25 meters. Flame-thrower's fuel consisted of a mixture of oil and gasoline that was "shot" with help of pressurized nitrogen stored in six pressurized tanks. Flame-thrower was ignited with acetylene "lighter". For additional armament MG34 7.92mm were carried inside. Machine gun was mounted in a small rotating turret (Kugelblende). Its crew consisted of three men (driver, radio operator and commander/flame-thrower operator) and its armor protection ranged from 14.5mm to 30mm thickness.
Doctrines Scorched Earth
Pop 8
Can airdrop No
Can glider No
Manpower 300
Ammunition 0
Fuel 90
In reserve 2
In supply 2
PP cost to supply 2
Vet modifier 160
Upgrades German Repair Ability Light (Cost: 0/25/0)
Vet 1 Received Damage 0.85
Vet 2 Received Accuracy 0.75, Health 1.15
Vet 3 Accuracy 1.2, Damage 1.2, Range +10
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BigDick
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Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #29 on:
October 02, 2009, 06:10:04 am »
Mortar Karl
faction:
PE
armor:
Ostwind armor
pop:
12
ammunition:
fires one 600mm 2t round ... ingame as modified version of avre petard rounds (6 times bigger splash)
reload cooldown:
180sec
range:
105 howi range
speed:
3
price:
500MP 250Fuel
usage:
break through allied support weapon walls (at guns+hmgs defensive positions and stuff)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-mYxJA_V_8
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BigDick
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Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #30 on:
October 02, 2009, 06:44:47 am »
Schiessbecher
german version of multi functional rifle nades
faction:
PE
type:
panzer grenadier upgrade
fire modi:
- normal riflenade:
range 30, can shoot like british riflenades above hedges and buildings
- weitschuss (far shoot):
more gun powder, can't shoot above buildings or hedges and has a flat trajectory with a range of 40
- Gewehrnebelgranade (smoke nades):
fires smoke rounds range 35
- Gewehr-Propagandagranate (propaganda nade):
fires propaganda messages to the enemy and debuffes accuracy -25%, duration 15 sec, cooldown 60sec, area cirle of 15 range
- Gewehr-Fallschirmleuchtgranate (PE lit up):
reveals stealth units (sniper) in that area (circle 15 range) and give line of sight, duration 15 sec, cooldown 60 sec
Panzergranate (anti tank grenade):
61mm hollow charge, can be fired over hedges and buildings (range 30) and are able to penetrate light armor and low armored tankderstroyers (M10, M18)
price:
90 mun
there could be a fictional incendiary riflenade mode that is given scorched earth, the AT mode is given tankhunter, and leuchtgranate (litup) and propaganda nade modes are given to luftwaffe, the smoke, far shoot and normal shoot can be used by all doctrines
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Last Edit: October 02, 2009, 07:17:35 am by BigDick
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Unkn0wn
No longer retired
Posts: 18379
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #31 on:
October 02, 2009, 07:07:50 am »
Pretty awesome
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Smokaz
Honoured Member
Posts: 11418
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #32 on:
October 02, 2009, 07:32:27 am »
Bigdicks two proposals were ingenious indeed!
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Baine
Steven Spielberg
Posts: 3713
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #33 on:
October 02, 2009, 07:53:56 am »
T4 for defensive doctrine:
88mm Pak 43 L/71
Range
: 1 1/2 times the range of a normal Pak, same Sight range though
Gun
: Same as the 88, but with higher reload, 1 1/2 reload modifier
Price
: 500 Manpower 220 Munitions 100 Fuel.
Pop
: 8
Pool Value
: 4
Buyable Upgrades
: Medkits 15 munitions, Focus fire 70 mun (
Can fire a 3 shell artillery barrage in the normal firing range. 200 Seconds cooldown
)
Veterancy levels
Vet 1 50xp
Vet 2 100xp
Vet 3 160xp
Veterancy
:
Vet 1 Regeneration 0.035, Recieved Damage 0.85
Vet 2 Received Accuracy 0.8, Sight +5
Vet 3 Damage 1.2, Sight +10
Model would be bigger than the Pak38, same with the barrel.
Role
:As a Defensive T4 it is a more mobile 88 that can break fortifications when attacking. It has a higher cost than pak/88, while its survivability is the same, and it can't cloak.
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Falcon333
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1125
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #34 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:09:18 am »
I'm gonna try to model one of these ideas.
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BaleWolf
Donator
Posts: 147
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #35 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:29:23 am »
Flak 38
20mm single barrel anti-aircraft gun
Defensive doctrine
Can cloak in cover like the British 6lb
Same movement speed and arc of fire as Pak
Range of Flakverling
1/2 suppression of the Flakverling
Damage and shot output of Armored Car (As realistically it is the same gun 20mm=2cm...)
It's pretty much a single barrel, portable Flakverling.
I would model it as a Pak with smaller shield and smaller barrel.
Upgrades- Larger shield for green cover on the crew
Veterancy pretty much that of Flakverling.
Go to 7:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agi85LB_g_Y&feature=related
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Baine
Steven Spielberg
Posts: 3713
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #36 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:43:11 am »
A question to that, can you make it so, that infantry gets blown to pieces when hit by that thing from BaleWolf?
Would be cool shit.
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BigDick
Guest
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #37 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:47:50 am »
Sturmpanzer IV - Brummbär (The Grumbler)
faction:
PE
type/armor:
based on the panzer IV J chassis but turretless and with better frontal armor (100mm frontal armor could get frontal armor of hetzers or panthers) and 600HP
ammunition:
150mm petard avre (cooldown) or stuh42 (better splash than) rounds (Igr 38 FES 38kg round to break through buildings, defensive positions...) or using doctrinal upgrade on cooldown Igr 39 HI/A 29kg hollow charge to fight light/medium armor
range:
40-45
speed:
bit slower than stuh42
price:
400MP 200Fuel
upgrades:
skirts (to fight even airborneblobs), mg34
usage:
help PE to deal with support weapon walls like AT guns (very strong and hard to penetrate by AT guns without AP rounds frontal armor) or hmgs, help the PE to deal with blobs and give them some kind of medium tank
here someone plans making a brummbär coh model in the future
but the hard part will be animating that thing
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=229028&page=1&pp=50
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Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #38 on:
October 02, 2009, 08:55:23 am »
okay, here i was thinkin you could only do one, i'm gonna figure one out later.
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Computer991
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Posts: 1219
Re: Competition Time!
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Reply #39 on:
October 02, 2009, 09:05:10 am »
IT should be limited to one.
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