Good luck catching the LVs with the hotch. The strenght of hte hotch lies in it's apparent crappyness that most LV users see. They charge, thinking it's an easy win, and get horribly raped by it's mighty frontal armor(bounce bounce bounce goes the greyhound/staghound).
And yes, smoke, I was the one who told you how I killed a pershing with 2 hotches, without losing one, and you didn't believe me, not vice versa
. I know how awesome the upgun hotch is. Fails against M18 spam, tho
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