3rdCondor
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« on: November 19, 2009, 02:28:33 pm » |
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I'm sick of trying to deploy artillery units and having engineers or jeeps destroy them. The weakest units raping trucks. Artillery have their flaws and aren't nearly as powerful as in VCOH so I don't see why the trucks have to be so weak.
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bbsmith
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 02:49:18 pm » |
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In what situation do you build howitzers close enough to the enemy for Engineers to kill it?
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Draken
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 03:01:45 pm » |
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It's hilarious how shermans bounce shots and jeeps or infantry rape trucks, but tbh don't touch it, if you build so close to enemy you deserve to loose truck.
You need to survive larval stage to get rape machine, we all want our favourite units to have no weak points, but that's not the way to balance game.
And your post is close to rule about rage posting.
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Baine
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 03:14:00 pm » |
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In what situation do you build howitzers close enough to the enemy for Engineers to kill it?
Looking at the other thread i think he might mean the 88 truck. It is fine, although it appears ridiculous how easily you can kill it even if it is protected. Only a slight increase of health might be a good change. You gotta wait for a moment where the enemy has to get new reinforcements and lacks scouts. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 03:30:42 pm » |
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Truck needs halftack armor, an HMG and stuka rockets TBH
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 03:54:00 pm » |
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It's true that howis are so much more safer to build than 88, because its an arty piece, whereas 88 has to be set up on the frontlines.
The truck should be able to withstand AT LEAST 10 garand shots. Trucks having less health than a nazicycle...
But once you get omniscience you'll see whats comin. Just get a bike before you bring out the fragile 88, or even any type of unit and scout ahead.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 04:02:21 pm » |
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If some jerk came at me with a machine gun mounted on his jeep, I'd be having trouble setting up a howie too
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Malevolence
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 04:21:27 pm » |
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Doubling the HP would be nice but giving it better armor is a no-go.
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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bbsmith
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 04:58:48 pm » |
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Alright it will be looked into.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 09:09:08 pm » |
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The trucks shoulld not be buffed, Set up time needs to be shortened if anything.
Its a veyr veyr powerful unit, that can be remaned and normally is many times and used to lock down a massive open area....
Honestly, IT should have a good weakness, thats in the setup time.
And if a bike or jeep rapes you as you set up... Good for thema s you have your shit unsupported
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| CommieKillerz
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 09:16:57 pm » |
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umm, 88 already has ton of weaknesses
ever heard of infantry and arty? even a lone engi can kill an 88 with no support.
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| donnieDark
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 09:39:42 pm » |
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These trucks have already been buffed..they used to deploy MUCH slower, now they set up ultra fast
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shockcoil
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2009, 03:18:21 am » |
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Are we so bored we're arguing about the fucking truck now? Seriously who the fuck cares?
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2009, 06:24:45 am » |
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30 seconds set up time instead of the good old 1 minute was buffing them enough.
I understand they die rather easily, but think about the veterancy they get!
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| Mukip
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 07:55:51 am » |
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Their weakness is incongruous compared to every other vehicle in the game so I'd support a health boost. It still wouldn't be very tough even if it had 150-200% more health.
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2009, 08:30:45 am » |
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The trucks shoulld not be buffed, Set up time needs to be shortened if anything.
Its a veyr veyr powerful unit, that can be remaned and normally is many times and used to lock down a massive open area....
Honestly, IT should have a good weakness, thats in the setup time.
And if a bike or jeep rapes you as you set up... Good for thema s you have your shit unsupported
The jeep has to squeeze just a couple of shots just to kill the truck. Even if I support my 88 it can still just slip through, kill the truck, then die. I do like the idea of reducing the setup time though. |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2009, 10:55:14 am » |
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First off the realism argument. It's a machine gun, firing on a softskin vehicle.
The balance argument. It's kinda balls that a 3 pop fast vehicle will ruin your day inside of 2 seconds. Most of the time you can blast the unit to oblivion but there are instances where you'll get bad accuracy rolls.
Changing setup time is not the answer because then you limit the ability for the player and his team to mount a coordianted offensive before the Defensive/Artillery Piece comes up.
Also part of the problem is with the player himself. Supporting a Howitzer or 88 doesn't mean stand around it with thumb in anus syndrome. You should be pushing out around the 88/105 to give LoS and have more time to fire on threats and react to them before they physically threaten then equipment your deploying.
In short, defend further out
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| Ununoctium
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2009, 02:24:15 pm » |
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ok. i think we can compromise.
give the truck the old PE halftrack armour so it dies properly to all bullet types. realism = balance this time
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| Hicks359
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2009, 02:28:41 pm » |
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If that applies to ALL call in based trucks... Then yes, i'd quite agree on that.
However, i still think there should be a way of attempting to salvage vet if the truck gets destroyed and the emplacement is just left there unbuildable.
Though that bit is more than likely, asking too much.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2009, 10:18:32 am » |
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Trucks should not be buffed.
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