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kwiatekkek
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #20 on:
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SX23
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #21 on:
December 12, 2009, 06:32:57 pm »
Ok, so here's what's happening with the new patch.
One the pe side, you got a 310 mp and 120 fu + 50pp, it also is on a very long countdown AND a very weak armor, and it gives similar bonuses to the crom. command tank. It also costs 5 pop.
On the brits side, you got a solid cromwell (compared to the hotch), that cost 180 mp and 65 fu , that does not require 50pp, that does the bonus for everybody, and that is not on countdown. Also it costs 2 pop, instead of 5.
Of course, the hotckiss bonus is better, but it is greatly compensed by the price, the weakness of the hotckiss armor and the pop factor. But, you still need 50pp's to have it. And now, you decided to remove the only thing that made the hotchkiss worth those 50 pps, wich was the slow factor. It allowed you to keep enemy tanks near the time the thing is activated. Now they can simply get away and come back later.
That's really stupid.
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Mukip
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #22 on:
December 12, 2009, 06:46:13 pm »
Am I right in thinking that the Hotchkiss Command Tank costs 3 pop less than a regular Hotchkiss so you're actually getting the same vehicle for less pop and with the ability to buff other vehicles?
You should think of the Hotchkiss as a stunted, mischievous sidekick to the tank it is paired with. Double-teaming AT guns, providing secondary AT against incoming M18's and the like. I'd be all over a 5 pop hotchkiss rather the the regular 8 pop version (can we lower that to 6-7?).
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LCII^Bun-Bun
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #23 on:
December 12, 2009, 07:02:32 pm »
So, basicly:
You get an effect which boasts your tanks to insane killing machines for 20 sec (long cooldown)
The unlock costs 50 PP and a slot.
You get a hotchkiss for 5 instead of 8 pop.
It has higher dodge rates than a normal hotchkiss.
High speed and a working main gun.
(infantry sniper!)
Brits:
Cromwell command tank.
2 pop.
Smaller boost, but pernament.
Lower dodge ratings.
No main gun.
For free.
Dude, 50 PP is gainable in 2, 3 games, you bitch about a 1 time sacrifice for something that rapes hard? Also: there is a difference between a KT / Jagdpanther / Panther with 50% faster firing and 15 extra range compared to a FF with 5 extra range and 25% faster firing...
IMHO I don't see much of the cromwell buff while the Hotchkiss buff is epic.
Also: last thing, YES it gives SIMILAR things, but they are a lot stronger, that's like saying a panther and a stug are also similar: both tanks with barrels and reasonable armor...
Except the panther pwns a bit more.
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3rdCondor
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #24 on:
December 12, 2009, 09:34:48 pm »
seems like PE is getting a lot better from the patch
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Mysthalin
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #25 on:
December 13, 2009, 02:26:19 am »
To be honest, you should be thankful if they gave you a
vanilla
hotchkiss at 5 popcap for 120 fuel - it also having the in-built recieved accuracy buff makes it a very fair deal. The only other vehicle that is 5 pop and below with comparable anti-infantry capability is the LATHT, and only with Focus Fire, which happens to be on a cooldown.
The activated buff for all friendly tanks is just some icing on the cake, that is not even deserved, considering the Hotch CCTs low price.
And tym - the cooldown is far longer than 300 seconds.. more like 480 or 600, I don't even remember.
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shockcoil
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #26 on:
December 13, 2009, 02:28:47 am »
Anyone who thinks the HCT isn't worth its cost or pop needs to have their heads checked. Or they need to see for themselves how insane that buff really is.
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Tymathee
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #27 on:
December 13, 2009, 05:53:41 am »
they take away the slowing ability and he whines...only people who spam these things will complaina bout it being nerfed, it's still a tank raper and it's actually going to be used the way its intended, as a tank buffer, not a enemy unit debuffer. Now you use the dang thing to support your tanks like it was supposed to be, instead of u sing it to slow and chase down tanks like i saw a lot of people use 'em now. I saw one gtuy with two vet 3 cct's, that's just stupid, it lets u know how overpowered it is. btw, you gotta get the vet from kills, not like the cct which gets it from the other tank getting kills.
btw, anyone for the cct getting a gun and a price update? at least a .50 cal or something, i dunno.
Ooh, here's an interesting idea for Enginners, you can get tank awareness for the cct just to make it a lil different for a heavy tank company like the enginners which btw, no one uses anymore.
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Mysthalin
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #28 on:
December 13, 2009, 07:08:25 am »
Well, there was the idea of a T4 that gave back the CCT it's main gun while in hulldown...
Was scrapped later on...
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Tymathee
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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December 13, 2009, 10:39:44 am »
Quote from: Mysthalin on December 13, 2009, 07:08:25 am
Well, there was the idea of a T4 that gave back the CCT it's main gun while in hulldown...
Was scrapped later on...
Yea i remember that. I think it would've sucked anyway.
or been easily spammable. epic 12 cct call in ftw!
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Mysthalin
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #30 on:
December 13, 2009, 11:10:15 am »
I dunno, a 12x CCT starting callin in which each CCT shoots at full auto with 25 more range and sight(With tank commanders 70 sight, 65 range)... and then imagine if they all got vet on top of that
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Re: Hotchkiss command tank?
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Reply #31 on:
December 13, 2009, 11:47:34 am »
ROFL WHAT BULLSHIT, HAVE U SEEN ELITEGRENS HCT WITH HETZERS? THAT SHIT IS FUCKIN LOL.
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