Question on Precision Strike and Howitzer Crews

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[gamesguy2]

actually, that was probably the smoke bug that happens in vcoh ALL THE FUCKING TIME, were if u wernt looking at the smoke when it was dropped and then hear it and scroll over, theres a chance you wont see it, or a chance you will, mostly you wont.

Except I was looking right at the mortar the whole time, and saw the smoke drop.  The mortar still didn't have enough time to retreat because it was in the middle of a fire animation, despite the fact that I hit the retreat button before the smoke even dropped.

[wittman420]

ok u crying babies allies can have percision strike and give blitz a arty barrage i would much rather have that TBFH, then it could actually be somewhat usefull other than just for killing howiz. wtf people are yall serious!

[SnoOp]

actually, that was probably the smoke bug that happens in vcoh ALL THE FUCKING TIME, were if u wernt looking at the smoke when it was dropped and then hear it and scroll over, theres a chance you wont see it, or a chance you will, mostly you wont.

Except I was looking right at the mortar the whole time, and saw the smoke drop.  The mortar still didn't have enough time to retreat because it was in the middle of a fire animation, despite the fact that I hit the retreat button before the smoke even dropped.

Ok well than thats not the offmaps fault, u were in the middle of a fire animation so therefor thats no legit excuse, if u wernt u wudda got away, shit happens.

[wildsolus]

ok u crying babies allies can have percision strike and give blitz a arty barrage i would much rather have that TBFH, then it could actually be somewhat usefull other than just for killing howiz. wtf people are yall serious!

or we could go back to blitz having no offmaps at all

[gamesguy2]

ok u crying babies allies can have percision strike and give blitz a arty barrage i would much rather have that TBFH, then it could actually be somewhat usefull other than just for killing howiz. wtf people are yall serious!

or we could go back to blitz having no offmaps at all

Exactly.  Blitz shouldn't have gotten it in the first place.  It would be like giving armor company rangers or giving RSE decoy arty.

[Demon767]

That is not a good point to argue the removal of precision strike.

[Smokaz]

Ladies, Ladies.

Look, whatever is going on here. A single precision strike should not be taking out a howie. If multiple strikes kill the weapon itself, thats fair. However is the precision strike actually taking out the howitzer weapon in 1 hit?

[lionel23]

Had another game, again lost two howies to direct precision hits.... I'm getting sick and tired of them being totally removed from the game immediately because of that.  Hell 105mm arty doesn't one shot 88s, just decrews em with plenty of life.  Why can't precision be a single, super accurate 105 round?  Serves the same purpose of neutralizing a weapon without completely and utterly blowing it to kingdom-come.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Except I was looking right at the mortar the whole time, and saw the smoke drop.  The mortar still didn't have enough time to retreat because it was in the middle of a fire animation, despite the fact that I hit the retreat button before the smoke even dropped.

Mortars are retarded and never retreat when you tell them to. They usually fire a shot or two, turn to face a different enemy unit, play sidoku, and then actually retreat. I means you've got a 99% chance of losing that mortar in almost every situation, not just with a Precision Strike.
That being said, I feel that the PS should decrew a Howi (or other support weapon), but not outright destroy it. I don't know its exact effectiveness, though, becasue I don't play blitz.

[wittman420]

This is true, i dont know why they blow up howitzers in one shot now, they dident use to do that. But thats no reason to start saying to take out PS just make it too where it need 2 hits or something.

[BeRzErKeR]

Maybe it should be T2, with a slight buff?

[lionel23]

Agree on T2, but buff to what? It (for me anyway, from play experience from being on the receiving end) destroys my howie on a direct hit way too often.  So now it should be a V1? Not sure how else you can buff it anymore than it is, it's already better than 105mm offmap.

[gamesguy2]

This is true, i dont know why they blow up howitzers in one shot now, they dident use to do that. But thats no reason to start saying to take out PS just make it too where it need 2 hits or something.

This statement is just ridiculous.

It's not balanced when a tier 1 offmap utterly destroys an artillery piece that costs as much as a howitzer with no chance of escape.  

It'd be like if the 105mm support barrage magically made nebels stay still and always destroyed them.   We don't need offmaps to come and make onmap artillery useless again.

[BeRzErKeR]

I was thinking larger AOE but lower damage, if it becomes a T2.

[wittman420]

why would u move it too t2 if your going to lower its dammage?

[BeRzErKeR]

Well, the lowering damage thought was so it doesn't destroy support weapons in one shot, only severely damage it. Its just a thought.

[wittman420]

whats a larger aoe?

[Computer991]

whats a larger aoe?

Area of effect.


All i have to say is....use it before you nerf it.

[wittman420]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww that would be nice

[lionel23]

It's damage does need to come down.  It's arty, it should be killing the infantry manning equipment, not annihilating their equipment too.  That's like saying my 105mm offmap should instant blow up 88s, nebs, and paks in one shot too.  Adding AOE would defeat the purpose of 'precision'