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[3rdCondor]

TBH

it's so stupid that it's ingenious!
screw infantry the wehr guy can handle that right?

[Mysthalin]

Yeah, that setup while great, doesn't really convey a PE company. Which is the problem with PE

Actually, both those setups ARE PE companies. It's what they should be.

[Demon767]

A Real PE company

[Mysthalin]

Nope, that's a Wehrmacht company dressed in PE skins. Try again.

[Demon767]

What are you talking about!! This is my PE company

[Mysthalin]

You're saying it's a real PE company when it isn't.
It's a Wehrmacht company just dressed in PE skins.

[Demon767]

I dont understand your definition of a real PE company.... its my PE comapny that ive always used.

[Mysthalin]

A real PE company actually has vehicles.
It's like.. you come on the field and there's nothing but triangles in the minimap.

Just because you've used it like that doesn't mean it's a real PE coy. In fact, it's very easy to replicate it with wehrmacht.

Replace the hetzers with stugs, the panzergrens with volks that have nades and fausts, the scout cars with MG42s and the mortar HTs with simple mortars. The LATHTs/50mms, whichever you have, can easily be switched with volks mines/paks.

You'll not only have a company that's nearly the exact same, just with a different skin, but you'll also be able to actually get proper buffs on your infantry.

[Smokaz]

Its what separates the good players executing the same old tired gig over and over, from the poonage players, imo. The merely good players see the same "possibilities" everywhere.

This is how demon/wittmann/randomboringwehrguy2's companies would look like, for all factions:

Wehr: Lmgs/shreks + pak + p4
Brit: Cromwell, bren tommy, 6p
PE: hetzer, mortar ht, 50mm, pgs
Americans: sherman, at gun, rifles

basically: MBT, supporting inf for MBT, supporting at for MBT

Zzzzzz, and its so map dependant to. I played a 3v3 against wittmann earlier today, and he puts his lmg in a building and then forgets about them the rest of the game while concentrating on microing a pak and a p4 back and forth.

Damn this vehicle/tank centered gameplay!

[BigDick]

If you can fight his LATHS and AC's with infantry, you can topple the entire build. That leaves you with zooks, 57mms type of weapons. AC's can fight this to a degree, so its no hard counter. I guess minespam would be dangerous to AC's too.

A cloaked hellcat can just defend the rest of the forces from the AC's too, wreaking havoc on a AC if the ambush hits. Doesnt matter if its engine damaged if its just cloaking in the back.

zooks are pumas/ACs biggest enemys ACs to fight zooks is a waste and will result in many dead ACs

zooks are that what completely destroys a PE army

[Demon767]

Shutup Smokaz lol

It works doesnt it. a balanced company that you can win on any map with. a great combined arms Coy. a Coy that hasnt changed for months. that tells you something right there.

LOL cromwell? no i use fireflies. cromwells cant take on anything haha and no shreks. other than that you got it exactly right Smokaz 

Myst. it is a real PE coy thankyou very much. i wouldnt play my WM like this company.
Ive got rid of the weaknesses of PE and micro intensive paper armor vehicles and suited it to MY playstyle and my tactics.

Infantry halftracks are not reliable enough, Shreks in halftracks are not reliable and very expensive, and not pop effective when i can field 50mm and Hetzer and it takes munitions away AI.

Armored Cars are not suited to my Company builds and my playstyles.

And i dont need to field mass halftracks when 1 Hetzer can do all i want or a 50mm can take out any vehicle i want. i dont need LAHT because my Infantry are upgraded and with my hetzer. MHT supporting it does enough. and i have lots of teller mines to help me damage engines critical vehicles

How bout you think before you insult and degrade someones company that they spent time moulding into a real killing machine

[Mysthalin]

It isn't a real PE coy - you can do the EXACT same on wehrmacht, that's my point.
In fact, my defensive coy still looks exactly the same as your PE one does.

The fact it hasn't changed at all in several months shows your refusal to adapt to changes in the meta-game and that you are, in fact, playing a company built entirely on how wehr coys are built.

You got rid of the weaknesses of PE? If anything, replacing IHTs that are fast and extend the lifespan of your infantry tenfold with entirely simple foot soldiers. 55 HP/man, 4 man per squad, weak foot soldiers. If anything, you just capitalised on the weakness of PE - it's easy to kill infantry.

It may suit your playstyle and tactics - which is to play like Wehrmacht - and congratulations on that. But don't claim it's a real PE company - as it isn't.

Look at david's company - he uses hetzers AND uses halftracks - and the synergy is simply astounding. The hetzers, with their super strong armour can take shots while the halftracks, with their speed, flank and kill stuff.

I severely doubt your capability to take out "any vehicle" with just a 50mm halftrack.

How about you see an insult when it actually is an insult : I just said your company isn't a "true PE company", but that it's a WM company in PE skins. How is that insulting you and your work?

P.S. "Real killing machine?" lawl.

[shockcoil]

To be fair, there's nothing wrong with demon's company. It's just boring.

nugnug's company I like. With that many ACs the only thing that can stand up to it are rangers with their stupid armour. My luft company is similar but I don't have the luxury of 10000000PPs so I can't oversupply on flimsy ACs

[Mysthalin]

That's what I'm saying - it may actually work quite well - teller mines for AT, other stuff for other stuff - but it's not something you should be doing as PE - it will work just the same if you do it as WM.

[Unkn0wn]

Who made you queen PE mysthalin? Judging over what defines a proper PE company and what doesn't?
If the real PE is vehicle orientated then the real Wehrmacht is no doubt support orientated.

[Mysthalin]

I'm self-proclaimed, duh. And David's my PE spouse of a king.

And can you honestly claim that wehrmacht ISN'T infantry and support orientated?

[CrazyWR]

Skaffa and I already claimed the title as overlords of PE, get in line.

[CrazyWR]

and anyways Myst, PE's beauty is that it allows so many different types of builds that are effective whereas the other factions are somewhat limited to only different twists on the same general outline to 2-3 different types...

as long as you can think creatively, the possibilities with PE are nearly endless, especially with the immense variety in doctrine abilities coming online now.



DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING IT AKRA

[shockcoil]

and anyways Myst, PE's beauty is that it allows so many different types of builds that are effective whereas the other factions are somewhat limited to only different twists on the same general outline to 2-3 different types...

as long as you can think creatively, the possibilities with PE are nearly endless, especially with the immense variety in doctrine abilities coming online now.



DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING IT AKRA

Hear hear!

... but you're still only second fiddle to me and myst

[Akranadas]

and anyways Myst, PE's beauty is that it allows so many different types of builds that are effective whereas the other factions are somewhat limited to only different twists on the same general outline to 2-3 different types...

as long as you can think creatively, the possibilities with PE are nearly endless, especially with the immense variety in doctrine abilities coming online now.



DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING IT AKRA

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