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[TheArea]

Ive been building toward a Ligthning War co, and I recently got Overwhelm (entire team deploys earlier), and Joint Operations (my co deploys faster in R+ mode).

The problem is I dont see any difference in my, or my teammates deployment with respect to the enemy.  That is, with overwhelm we dont seem to deploy any quicker than allies, and with Joint Ops does this mean it only works IF im the first to delpoy in R+ mode?  Or, do I deploy earlier than the ally paired with me to come on 2nd or 3rd?  In either case, I dont think its working appropriately.

Does anyone else have this issue, or am I misunderstanding how these abilities work?

[Unkn0wn]

Faster deployment only works when attacking and in R+ (in R+ it's only 30 seconds, you'll notice this unless you start first of course)

[TheArea]

Dam I misunderstood the abilities then, for T2 and T3 docs those are pretty shitty then.

I suppose changes in how the warmap works may make them a little better, but I dont see how one can make any judgement on balance until it is implemented. At the moment, then, lightning war branch is pretty bad, unless the T4 is just godly, we shall see...

[Unkn0wn]

The extra pop is quite good, and the t4 is great.

[Smokaz]

Joint operations is awesome. 6 more pop divided on 2 players in 2v2s, 8 more pop for the whole team in 4v4s. And god forbid there's two joint operations players. God forbid there's 2 Lightning War players in a game, constantly resupplying the front line with insane effenciency, single volk callins running to reman the wehr support spam, looking at a 136 pop axis army facing a 120 pop allied army (at BEST!) tired from backcapping and not being able to man their frontlines fast enough.

Lightning war makes it hard to play other companies, everythings going slow and your struggling to decide what to bring out. I go play my brit, pe or americans and I almost fall asleep.

[TheArea]

Yeh I have gotten used to the 27 pop start. 

And that +2 pop stacks with other Lightnin War cos?  That I hadnt noticed, is that something thats intended or will get "fixed"?

I dont have the T4 yet, but it does look nice.  We'll see how the new warmap affects the rest of the tree.

By the way Smokaz, what did you pick up along with Lightning War?

I have Panzer Cover and Terrain Experts.  Along with Imp Barrels, Blitz, and German Eng.

[Smokaz]

Barrels is meh. Didnt pick it. But like a true professional, you saw terrain experts having synergy with LW, so it was a natural pick.

Dropped the tiger, bad unit, no synergy with LW.

So basically for the bottom unlocks I went with: Blitzkrieg (mad synergy with LW), GE (you always escape to repair, so why not repair twice), assault grenades (mad synergy with LW)

As for JO stacking, pretty sure its intended but not 100% sure. It used to stack in the old implementations too.

[Computer991]

LIGHTNING WAR IS THE GOD AMONG DOCTRINES

[brn4meplz]

LW looks to be the strongest doctrine choice for Blitz. I'm in the process of testing a Heat rounds Improved barrels Stug/Volks spam company.

[deadbolt]

LW looks to be the strongest doctrine choice for Blitz. I'm in the process of testing a Heat rounds Improved barrels Stug/Volks spam company.

i believe that was fairly pwn with the stuh in old eir, but favourties use to be german steel stug spam

[brn4meplz]

Yeah but with Things like Keep it moving/Assault and improved penetration and damage it might play out well. If I could get back into the launcher I'd love to try it on someone

[Atlanton]

Is there any use trying to build a LW-oriented company before getting the actual T4?

[Smokaz]

Whats a lightning war orientated company, anyways? Other than grabbing as many assault nades as you afford, and using up all your fuel, you can do whatever you want. It buffs most infantry and speeds up all your armor and their moving accuracy gets buffed.

[Malevolence]

Lightning War was the most hilarious T4 for a while, not sure how it plays out now, but getting ten million volks and pio flamers and pumas and just wtfblobrushing people was great.

[Atlanton]

That makes sense.

Considering that I haven't played in a few months, I'm just wondering if I should try to play in the lightning war style of play despite the fact I have a brand new account.

[Computer991]

Nah just play it like a normal blitz company...That's what i did