Swap of Doctrinal Units

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[Armfelt]

Just a thought:

Stormtroopers are slow and needs to be baby sitted 100% to pay of.
Walking stuka is fast, while nebels are slow.

Would'nt it make sense if Guerilla/ambush stormies were put into the Defensive doctrine and highly mobile stuka in Blitzkrieg to clear the way for other mobile forces?

In the defensive doctrine stormies could work as fighting-able spotters for eg. an 88.

that they are called stormtroopers ain't really suitable. For me Knights crossholders are more like stormtroopers and stormies are more like guerillas. In theory, if there would be a trade between doctrines. Would´nt it serve to change the name of stormtroopers to eg. Ambush Squad? Wouldn't that ease the pain for those who is inconvinient with the idea of stormtroopers in Defensive instead of Blitz?

(There have been a unit type that was called like that for the commandos, but that unit isn't used.)

[SnoOp]

im a go with ur dumb.

[Malgoroth]

No.

Stormies are cloakable ass rapers. They go behind the lines and rape ass, leaving the allies to cry themselves to sleep and take very long, very hot showers. Assault (by way of stealth).

Stukas sit behind the lines and lob fiery, painful, throat violating death at the enemies. Sitting behind the lines is more of a defendy/supporty role.

[Armfelt]

No.

Stormies are cloakable ass rapers. They go behind the lines and rape ass, leaving the allies to cry themselves to sleep and take very long, very hot showers. Assault (by way of stealth).

That is guerilla tactics in my opinion and guerilla tactics is a defensive way of warfare, when just advancing slowly in the best of worlds. Often just harrassing.

Stukas sit behind the lines and lob fiery, painful, throat violating death at the enemies. Sitting behind the lines is more of a defendy/supporty role.

Stukas is on a mobile platform, able to be at the right spot in a relatively short period of time in opposite to the Nebelwerfer, that is the only larger artillery availably for Blitzkrieg.

[EliteGren]

I don't like this idea. Imagine a new guy coming into the mod and seeing defensive having storms. He would be like "lol defensive with storms, im outta here".

[Smokaz]

Hell of good idea. Lets trade storms for 88.

[Armfelt]

I don't like this idea. Imagine a new guy coming into the mod and seeing defensive having storms. He would be like "lol defensive with storms, im outta here".

Yes that they are called stormtroopers ain't really suitable. For me Knights crossholders are more like stormtroopers and stormies are more like guerillas.

[Armfelt]

Hell of good idea. Lets trade storms for 88.

88 is a pure defensive unit, thanks for your sarcasm...

In the Defensive doctrine, stormies could work as scouts for the 88.

[Tymathee]

i think stuka would be more of a terror weapon imo and the G-wagen is more of a defensive weapon.

[Armfelt]

i think stuka would be more of a terror weapon imo and the G-wagen is more of a defensive weapon.

Ye, stuka could work as a terror weapon, but the G-wagen have almost the same role as the 88 IMO.
Stormtroopers could be alot of terror in some cases too...

(updated first post).

[brn4meplz]

The Nebel is a terror weapon, the Stuka is shit enough to be in all 3 doctrines and no one would take it.

[Smokaz]

Agreed, I probably wouldnt get a stuka even if it was non-doctrinal. It's OK against tommies, surely so with buffs. But thats it, def takes a mediocre stuka and turns it somewhat good. Its still a poop unit. In vcoh its good cause its cheap as fuck to build, takes literally no pop at all, and rapes emplacements and tommies.

[Armfelt]

A vet 3 Stuka in vCoH is badass, a change of performance is easily changed in a patch if needed. Though I am not really a fan of arty spam.

[Tymathee]

so maybe stuka should be a non doc unit and Nebel be a def or terror weapon, sounds good to me

[Smokaz]

can't really take nebels away after the old eir elite, after what, 5 years, realized that mortar smoke was useful.. its one of the better counters.

[Akranadas]

I don't like this idea. Imagine a new guy coming into the mod and seeing defensive having storms. He would be like "lol defensive with storms, im outta here".

That's a silly reason not to swap defenisve orinated stormtroopers with an mobile artillery platform.

[Armfelt]

In theory, if there would be a trade between doctrines. Would´nt it serve to change the name of stormtroopers to eg. Ambush Squad? Wouldn't that ease the pain for those who is inconvinient with the idea of stormtroopers in Defensive instead of Blitz?

(There have been a unit type that was called like that for the commandos, but that unit isn't used.)

[Tymathee]

In theory, if there would be a trade between doctrines. Would´nt it serve to change the name of stormtroopers to eg. Ambush Squad? Wouldn't that ease the pain for those who is inconvinient with the idea of stormtroopers in Defensive instead of Blitz?

(There have been a unit type that was called like that for the commandos, but that unit isn't used.)

at the same time, think of this. 88 + storm trooper...nah leave it as is.