Smokaz
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 04:18:21 am » |
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Carabines is not flat OP independant of what kind of company you run.. You have to run these kind of companies to make it broken.
Reapers just add up too much, a vet 3 57mm will 3 shot a p4 with this T4.
But yeah, I've taken this up with Akranadas, EIRRMOD and the rest of the balance team several times.
For a long time I thought carabines wasn't that bad since it added no extra AT capability this patch (afaik)
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Tymathee
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 04:36:36 am » |
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why do people insist on creating scenarios where you have vet? a vet 0 tr at gun will 5 shot a p4, if i add 20% dmg at vet 3, i hope i can 3 shot a p4 or the vet isn't worth it, so give me a break.
carbines deals with ai and adds no at
tr deals with at and adds no ai
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"I want proof!"
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 04:39:36 am » |
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Tymmie, I find it fun your TR actually nerfs your AT guns ;p.
Vanilla ATG damage - 150
Vanilla P4 health - 600.
Durrr.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 04:44:38 am » |
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Like mysthalin posted - if a normal 57mm penetrates it will 4-5 shot a p4. I'm not sure if hes taking possible skirts in consideration, or if they still have the 10% reduction from all sources thing.
Part of the problem here is that you get too much added benefit for no cost. You dont pay extra for those semi-shrek zooks, or the rape at guns with TR. You dont pay for any increased ability on carabine rifles, thus making a riflespam company overly viable.
There are doctrines on the axis side that need to adjusted for the same reasons. Storm tactics add a lot of killing power to the cheaper panzergrens, but they have no possibility to field a equally deterrant AT as the zook or the sticky.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2010, 06:49:03 am » |
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this is soooo old. but now you get it.  |
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2010, 06:51:23 am » |
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My T4 for tankhunters gives me 35%+ more penetration and 15% more accursey vs tanks ONLY no AI power right? Explain to me why tank reapers should get 33+% penetration 25%+ acc vs everything and 20% more damage. Sure it only affects ATGs, Stickies, and bazookas. But my tank reapers only effects my AT vehicles. Carbines absolutely rape any other infantry, which is unfair. The SE T4 doesn't allow their infantry to rape everything else does it? No.
Oh god this is getting offtopic.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2010, 07:53:50 am » |
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The SE T4 doesn't allow their infantry to rape everything else does it? No.
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2010, 10:17:30 am » |
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I want assault grenades because without them blitzkrieg is extremely boring. I don't care how annoying they are I want them back arrrrgh!
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2010, 11:03:13 am » |
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Carabines is not flat OP independant of what kind of company you run.. You have to run these kind of companies to make it broken.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2010, 11:28:48 am » |
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A well managed Storm tactics company will kill Carbine rifles handily.
The fact stills remains your getting an improvement seen only on munitions cost upgrades without paying the munitions cost. If it were secluded to a small sect of units I'd have no issues with it but carbines does all your rifles and vanilla rangers. Unlike HEAT rounds which at most affects 8 StuG's 5 P4's or 2 Tigers. (Armour company has AP rounds as the opposite of HEAT pretty much)
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Malgoroth
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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2010, 11:29:34 am » |
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Since I'm so out of the loop... were assault grenades removed via a patch? Or are they broken and not working? If the former... why? Were they considered OP? When exactly did this happen?
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2010, 11:29:52 am » |
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A well managed Storm tactics company will kill Carbine rifles handily.
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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2010, 11:30:54 am » |
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Micro
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2010, 11:31:51 am » |
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dont see how a few well microed storms will kill a ton of carbine rifles
so..how exactly?
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2010, 11:32:47 am » |
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Go get yourself a Storm tactics company and play against Carbine rifles. You'll learn how.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2010, 11:34:06 am » |
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what is storms tactics?
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2010, 11:34:43 am » |
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lol
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2010, 11:36:31 am » |
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Rofl
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2010, 11:36:59 am » |
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lol i simply forgot it. Alzheimer's? :S
epic fail
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2010, 11:39:17 am » |
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So who gets to use that in their sig?
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