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Question: Reduce the pool points with increasing price?
Yes - 3 (15.8%)
No - 11 (57.9%)
Only for the Airborne Rifles - 4 (21.1%)
Only for the Airborne - 1 (5.3%)
Total Voters: 19

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Clavis55o Offline
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« on: May 24, 2010, 10:44:55 pm »

I know the acctual doctrine isn't out yet but is there a plan or is it possible to reduce the pool value down one from the current values. For example, the ab rifles are 3 pool points could it be reduced to 2 and there be a Manpower Increase? It seems like a fair trade.
Discuss, and dont flip out or call me retarded this is the first balance thing i've posted.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 10:48:45 pm »

you have no evidence, you provided nothing for us to decide why you want it changed
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 12:51:41 am »

Airborne 2 Pool
AT-Airborne 4 Pool
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 04:55:31 am »

i dont want companies consisting of ABs only.
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 06:31:16 am »

i dont want companies consisting of ABs only.

Normal AB Squad is a rifleman squad with much more hp and heroic armor. No sticky but got satchel
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2010, 06:34:02 am »

uhh.. speedy :

AB is a 70 HP/man squad that has AB armour(basically a nerfed version of ranger armour) and carbines.
Carbines being the worst rifle in the game.

You can hardly call them as  having much more HP, and they're far from heroic armour ;p.
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2010, 06:40:07 am »

AB armor is better imo.
has decreased incoming moving accuracy
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2010, 06:41:35 am »

Wait wait wait AB has no heroic armor? M1 Carbines sux?

Though 70 hp/man in a 6 man squad it is HIGH no? Tongue 420 hp squad. I say it is good ammount of hitpoints right there. Esp they get the fireup too
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2010, 06:45:05 am »

AB armor is better imo.
has decreased incoming moving accuracy
That's why your opinion doesn't matter.

In almost all cases ranger armour gives the same rec. acc bonuses all the time, when you need to move to get them on airborne.

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Though 70 hp/man in a 6 man squad it is HIGH no? Tongue 420 hp squad.
Not really, squad HP is nearly always irrelevant. I'd much rather take the 320 HP/squad grenadier over the 330 HP/squad rifleman when it comes to survivability, for instance.

Fire-up is irrelevant to armour type.

M1 carbines are the worst rifles in the game.
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 07:56:31 am »

Airborne rifles are 3 pool? Shocked

Probably when they were super OP airborne were worth 4, not so much anymore.
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 08:01:51 am »

no hasty changes, AB doctrine isnt implemented yet
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 08:03:18 am »

no hasty changes, AB doctrine isnt implemented yet

I've already finished coding it, just hasn't been patched in yet.

And I can tell you right now airborne are not worth 4 pool, nor are airborne rifles worth 3.
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 08:04:58 am »

uhm..out it into the autoupdater? naow? Shocked (surprise patch)

AB rifles arent worth 3, yeah but ABs are worth 4 poolpoints. and how!
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 08:08:14 am »

uhm..out it into the autoupdater? naow? Shocked (surprise patch)

AB rifles arent worth 3, yeah but ABs are worth 4 poolpoints. and how!

No when I finish terror both will go out in one patch.
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 08:12:22 am »

sweet
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105TigerHunters Offline
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 08:18:31 am »

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uhm..out it into the autoupdater? naow?  (surprise patch)

AB rifles arent worth 3, yeah but ABs are worth 4 poolpoints. and how!


No when I finish terror both will go out in one patch.

>.> Your making me wait for my doctrine for those terror nubs! how dare you! lol, suppose its fair but arg!!!
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Clavis55o Offline
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2010, 08:27:32 am »

i dont want companies consisting of ABs only.
Theres already a company consisting of more than 2/3rds rangers
And thanks for the incoming patches!
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CafeMilani Offline
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 08:43:20 am »

i dont want companies consisting of ABs only.
Theres already a company consisting of more than 2/3rds rangers
And thanks for the incoming patches!

i know and those 'issues' are hopefully addressed by our almighty balancing team! (?)
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 08:47:59 am »

i dont want companies consisting of ABs only.
Theres already a company consisting of more than 2/3rds rangers
And thanks for the incoming patches!

i know and those 'issues' are hopefully addressed by our almighty balancing team! (?)

Ranger spam is a terrible build...

You could build a company out of 10 KCH as well, that doesn't mean it's any good.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 08:52:26 am »

even if is terrible (which i doubt because 20 vet3 tank reaper rangers simply cant be that terrible) you shouldnt be able to have a company like this. its stupid. there should be a hardcap on all doctrinal elite infantry units (rangers, AB, falls, storms) just like there is a hardcap on jagds and KTs. i dont see a reason why it shouldnt be like this tbh
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