[WM] Reasons to take an Ostwind?

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[CafeMilani]

but it also takes 2 pak hits to kill it. 
and it fits the same role

[CafeMilani]

how comes 2 zook hits almost kill an ostwind? vet3 rangers w/ tank reapers. right lionel?

[sgMisten]

I ran both pumas and ostwinds in my blitz company pre-wipe. Ostwinds owned due to AoE, the scatter and ability to deal with light vehicles.

Also able to destroy support weapons a lot quicker.

Greatly preferred the Ostwinds to the pumas, which I kept for bumrush and sneaky back attacks

[puddin]

As someone who have used Ostwinds extensively through all EIRR patches.  What has changed is the fact that Ostwinds used to get +15% range through improved barrels and that made a world of difference.  Then it could effectively out range Man packed At, and at least deter Light vehicles a little more.  

The accuracy sucked but it would start hitting and do some dmg, Also when heat rounds effected it, with Improved barrels it became a massively effective unit.  

The ostwind dies easily to zooks it seems, and latly with Armor doc and INf doc getting zooks on rifles they are cheap and effective against all armor light armor from the front, tanks and heavy armor from the rear.  

All of those have reduced the effectiveness of the ostwind as of late.  

PLus if you attack move, by the time the ostwind slows to a stop, as happens in most games, It is within man packed At.  


I find they are decent units, when used in pairs they become much better, But at 10 Pop cap, with no doctrine buffing abilities I find them to be very weak mid to late company builds... They will be phased out for unitunlocks and units that get buffed so in all honestly they are shit later on.

[crimsonrabbit]

what if lightning came out of my ass and rainbows from my penis?

You'd be part of the Dev team.

BAHAHAHAH! that was funny. 

[NightRain]

Zooks get bonuses for rear hits afaik

[Mysthalin]

Zooks get bonuses for rear hits afaik

They don't - nothing in the game does.
Urban myth, nothing else.

[LeoPhone]

THEN WHY IS 4 x 75 = 400??

[EliteGren]

Doctrine abilities? Veterancy? Both?

[Tymathee]

there's also the 40 sight over the 35 for most tanks and vehicles.

THEN WHY IS 4 x 75 = 400??

it doesn't. im sure something else hit it.

[LeoPhone]

Doctrine abilities? Veterancy? Both?

there's also the 40 sight over the 35 for most tanks and vehicles.

THEN WHY IS 4 x 75 = 400??

it doesn't. im sure something else hit it.

check the video!!! 1 zook bounced off and 4 penetrated. 1 rear armour hit. http://www.xfire.com/video/2c02fe/

there was a vet 2 american officer and a halftrack that was probably giving mobile cover.
rangers and riflesquad were vet 1.

1 bounced zook doesnt do 100 dmg.
rear armour hit doesnt do more dmg

only dmg bonus ame officer can do is with inspired assault. +20% dmg.
300x1.20=360, not 400.
vet on american officer doesnt matter.
ame officer doesnt give dmg bonus at all*

halftrack gives cover, not dmg bonus.

rangers and rifles only get dmg bonus at vet3, not vet1.

tank reapers is a t4 and noone can buy t4s yet.


so... i ask again.

why do four 75dmg zooks kill a 400 hp ost?

[gamesguy2]

Doctrine abilities? Veterancy? Both?

there's also the 40 sight over the 35 for most tanks and vehicles.

THEN WHY IS 4 x 75 = 400??

it doesn't. im sure something else hit it.

check the video!!! 1 zook bounced off and 4 penetrated. 1 rear armour hit. http://www.xfire.com/video/2c02fe/

there was a vet 2 american officer and a halftrack that was probably giving mobile cover.
rangers and riflesquad were vet 1.

1 bounced zook doesnt do 100 dmg.
rear armour hit doesnt do more dmg

only dmg bonus ame officer can do is with inspired assault. +20% dmg.
300x1.20=360, not 400.
vet on american officer doesnt matter.

halftrack gives cover, not dmg bonus.

rangers and rifles only get dmg bonus at vet3, not vet1.

tank reapers is a t4 and noone can buy t4s yet.


so... i ask again.

why do four 75dmg zooks kill a 400 hp ost?

That's really odd, who was the American player?

[brn4meplz]

old replay. gotta be TR, lol.

Either that or 5 zooks come out and then including the deflection it'd be a crit based kill. I know 1 fires from the building at the end and another one is leaving the window but it never makes contact

[brn4meplz]

never mind i checked myself

[gamesguy2]

old replay. gotta be TR, lol.

Either that or 5 zooks come out and then including the deflection it'd be a crit based kill. I know 1 fires from the building at the end and another one is leaving the window but it never makes contact

Each zook did around 1/4 dmg, they must've had a damage bonus.

American officer don't give a damage bonus btw Leo.

[LeoPhone]

omg, thats not an old replay.

rangers and ame officer were from 23rdRangerCompany

rifle zook and halftrack were from ScrewDriver123.


and here is the replay now u start doubting: http://www.filefront.com/16568397/zook4hitost.zip/


sry for that officer mistake, i got it from the officer thread, i forgot its old.

[gamesguy2]

What was the battle number?  You can check by going to your main coh folder and it will have a bunch of text files titled EIR battle #whatever.

[LeoPhone]

it says 1991. but it seems watching the replay has changed the file.

this was in it (part):
Adding Squad Entities: SGroup43492 bp: sbps\_europeinruins\races\us\soldiers\mortar_section xp: 1000
Adding Squad Entities: SGroup33125 bp: sbps\_europeinruins\races\us\soldiers\officer_american_squad xp: 1000

wtf?

[Tymathee]

they're vet 2.

1000 xp = vet 2
2000 xp = vet 3