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[Demonic Spoon]

I feel like the mod in general is skewed towards vehicle spam.



There's a HUGE emphasis on vehicles and anti-tank. Infantry battles are comparatively scarce and any (non-AT) infantry brought in are usually brushed aside by armored cars or tanks.


EDIT: Nevermind. I thought about it some more and realized it's generally just light vehicle spam. Increase light vehicle costs across the board...Make them a somewhat significant fuel investment and increase manpower costs a bit as well

[Grundwaffe]

I know brooooo, totally agree.
Thats why im staying away from EiR a bit, im just doing vanilla til they get to solve theese issues.
But yeah, something needs to be done.

[vivie5]

I for one support less Vehicle Spam

More German infantry on the field I say!

[Armfelt]

I think it is quite fun to micro vehicles, but yeah I agree on that tanks should be rare, atleast more uncommon.

Edit: But they have lowered the available fuel quite a bit, + reduced the availability of super heavies atleast, which are good :]

[Demonic Spoon]

I don't think it's quite so much tanks as vehicles. For all intents and purposes they have no fuel cost, and the MP cost is quite low.

[Draken]

Vechicles are overpspammed that's true, in EiR we can see oppostie thing to vCoH were many players are noobish in use of infantry and think they are pro in tank battles, tanks are always easier to micro then infantry, so I support the idea of somehow limiting tank spam.

[nated0g]

Allied Light Armour Spam (LAS) has been an issue for a longggg time. Since the T17s arrival its been an issue.

I see why tho, the British stag is very cost effective. For me it kill an average of about 10-15 men each on a good run. And I have 12 stag hounds so it worked out very well.

Stag needs a slight health decrease and a pop increase of 1.

[CrazyWR]

its all factions Nate, not just allies...

[EliteGren]

PE spamming vehicles! Who would have seen that one coming?

[nated0g]

Ive havent seen any PE/WM light vehicle spam of any effectiveness on the scale of the Stag/T17 spam.

[deadbolt]

Ive havent seen any PE/WM light vehicle spam of any effectiveness on the scale of the Stag/T17 spam.

have you seen anyone attempt to

[nated0g]

Yea, PE Armoured Car spam wiht 50Mms, but since allies have cheap MANPAT (55 MM bazooka and 90 MM boys AT), seems fairly pointless.

SO yes, Light Vehicle Spam is quite an allied thing to do.

[smurfORnot]

isnt stag nerfed enough? compared to t17 he doesnt do all that well...

[SX23]

The only problem I got with this is that PE/Wer don't have any anti-light vehicles. Let's give a quick example: Rangers vs Armored Car-- I let you guess who wins. Then 2 shrecks squads against a stag: I again let you guess who wins....
Maybye giving a light anti at to axis might be good?
Such as 2x light panzershrecks or something like that? Something that could scare off light vehicles like rangers do with AC?

[Tymathee]

Anti light vehicles? You mean schrecks? 2 zooks = 150 dmg 1 schreck = 120 dmg.

I just played a game where i saw a double schreck storm 2 hit 3 stags that were full health, so i'd have to say that schrecks are a lot more effective.

It takes 4-6 zook hits to take out most light vehicles on wehr and pe and thats if they hit as they have worse accuracy than schrecks do. Pumas do just fine vs rangers imo, as do pe armor cared, and the LAT with FF is a lot better than any stag or t-17 at taking out infantry, 2 is over kill.

IMO, i see more axis lv spam lately and vehicle spam in general than i've seen allies. I play both sides remember and i have to totally change my allied company now to combat all the vehicles i've seen lately.

One thing with the fuel decrease that it's done is made less tanks but more light vehicles. So, I think that the vehicle pool just needs to be reduced instead of trying to lower fuel again. Cuz the thing about changing fuel prices on vehicles and tanks is that you create more space for something else to be used. So if u could afford 5 tanks and can only take 4 now with the 100 fuel decrease, that extra 150 that you have now will be used by light vehicles.

[EliteGren]

You mean like Panzerfausts and AT Grenades?

[Groundfire]

allied light vehicle spam again?

Uhhhggg, hang on, let me destroy this already broken record.

I did this yesterday to Snoop's T17 with 1 upgunned puma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb0M2MPtmA

If you fall victim to light vehicle spam, you rly only have yourself to blame.

[CafeMilani]

hail groundfire, greatest light vehicle killer of all time! lol

[Smokaz]

That was PURE luck. The same pure luck that makes a cloaked m18 miss a upgun puma at short range. Way 2 go, groundfire.

[brn4meplz]

Watch the video again you nub, it wasn't cloaked