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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2010, 02:13:00 am » |
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croc is fine wat is u problem with it....
can i have pak on my flammenwerfer. hmmmmm? and i think it has more health than a normal sherman... it is fast and can take at least 3 or 4 hits (2 or 3 to the arse) from a pak but once it gets close shit gets toasted. i hate em cause if u din't have armour and lose abit of at in a firefight these things just rape.
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winisez
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2010, 03:37:59 am » |
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Panzerman I play both sides, I can assure you my reaction to the croc on the axis is never any worse than to that of a regular sherman, and a regular sherman can do SO much more. Croc will rarely get more than 10 kills, and that is if it is used well imo. The shermans 75/76 mm kills faster than the crocs flame thrower in my in game experience on using the unit and its got shorter range. The croc has few redeeming factors currently imo.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2010, 03:58:52 am » |
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tru but it aint a chirchil croc remeber it needs support.
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kwiatekkek
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2010, 04:48:39 am » |
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Should also make Sherman Crocodille regains main gun. And can purchase a machine gun on the top. A slower firing rate, limited turret rotation, and slower turret rotation compare to the originals cause they also uses the flame thrower.
i mean seriously , you want that t3 to buff another tank of yours? you allready got callie with its gun back ...why wont you get one, instead you gonna have a frikin awesome arty unit(way way more efficient than a croc burst) and 75mm gun.....
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2010, 05:55:31 am » |
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Didn't it occur to anyone. As in, at all.. That if NGV gave sherman crocodiles the sherman main gun, there would be absolutely no reason to buy the 240 FU 12 pop sherman over the 225 10 pop Crocodile, that burns people on top of shooting them?
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winisez
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2010, 06:01:48 am » |
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I think most people ignored that suggestion as being slightly silly and took the thread in there own direction...or thats what i tried to do at least
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winisez
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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2010, 06:03:12 am » |
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Should also make Sherman Crocodille regains main gun. And can purchase a machine gun on the top. A slower firing rate, limited turret rotation, and slower turret rotation compare to the originals cause they also uses the flame thrower.
i mean seriously , you want that t3 to buff another tank of yours? you allready got callie with its gun back ...why wont you get one, instead you gonna have a frikin awesome arty unit(way way more efficient than a croc burst) and 75mm gun..... The problem with NGV is the same problem with the Panzer Aces t3, its great if you get ONE SPECIFIC UNLOCKABLE unit, but if you dont its a rather underwhelming t3 imo and could do with being looked at.
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sgMisten
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2010, 06:17:32 am » |
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Didn't it occur to anyone. As in, at all.. That if NGV gave sherman crocodiles the sherman main gun, there would be absolutely no reason to buy the 240 FU 12 pop sherman over the 225 10 pop Crocodile, that burns people on top of shooting them?
THere's 1 reason to get regular Sherman - The upgun. But other than that, yes I would take a main gun enabled Croc sherman with Skirts :p Who needs suppression with a mounted MG when you can burn men out with a free flamethrower. Anyway, if you look at the replies, most of us don't think it's reasonable for the crocodile sherman to get its main gun back. So don't get too worked up over this topic. A mod should lock this by now really. And to wini > NGV as a Tier3 is pretty good even without maingun for calliope. Faster reload for all vehicle weapons, INCLUDING mounted MGs. Plus turret rotation.
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winisez
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 06:24:31 am » |
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But it doesnt help the croc much and I am an agent on JUSTICE, I feel this should be addressed as it makes the croc sad and upset.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2010, 07:03:35 am » |
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The croc is the 3rd retard child in the family of shermans. Nobody cares about it.
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sgMisten
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« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2010, 07:15:25 am » |
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Create a new thread for the crocodile sherman - the unit then, and not NGV, in the interests of preserving the integrity of the EIR suggestions forum.
Anyway, the major reason why the croc seems "nerfed" now is because in the past axis was only Wehrmacht, which meant a lot of infantry to be burnt. With the addition of PE which is mostly vehicle based, the number of targets has been cut drastically.
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« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2010, 07:16:18 am » |
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What misten said. If there's a consenus that the Croc needs some lovin' we'll look into it.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2010, 07:26:40 am » |
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croc suggestion:
the bulldowser allows it to crush light vehicles and push away tanks.
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2010, 09:00:48 am » |
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I just hope it can have a firing main gun... Not a dummy one. Not dummy enough to be fake. That's the point.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2010, 09:15:57 am » |
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croc suggestion:
the bulldowser allows it to crush light vehicles and push away tanks.
KT vs crocodile. Crocodile pushes KT into an allied mine or sticky bomb riflemen. GG.
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2010, 09:46:25 am » |
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I just hope it can have a firing main gun... Not a dummy one. Not dummy enough to be fake. That's the point.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2010, 11:05:24 am » |
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