Rocksitter
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« on: June 27, 2010, 04:48:57 pm » |
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I would love the ability to have a Doctrine upgrade for either sprint or fire up on KCH I would rather have this then the current Pervitin Pills thou not sure if it would be a tier 3...
It would also bring them in order with there cost effectiveness that I have seen people discuss in the past...
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Tymathee
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 08:57:40 pm » |
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pe have sprint, americans have fire up, wehr and brit have good suppression resistance. not needed
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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| Jazzhead
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 09:03:17 pm » |
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pe have sprint, americans have fire up, wehr and brit have good suppression resistance. not needed
Though with WM and PE (WM more since they don't have sprint), a single bar squad can negate any axis squad. You have to kill them so fast that they don't have the opportunity to suppress -.- |
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 09:48:21 pm » |
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Sure, 1 squad. Although its rare for it to be an isolated 1v1 engagement.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 09:53:54 pm » |
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Yeah 1 bar squad can suppress 2 squads too if they are anywhere near eachother.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 10:14:05 pm » |
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Not 2 KCH squads.
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| UndeathWrath
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 10:20:59 pm » |
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KCH are underpowered. Completely not cost effective.
For 50 more manpower and 10 more muni get yourself 2 Mp20 volks squads and own that bar squad son.
nuff said
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 10:30:04 pm » |
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KCH are underpowered. Completely not cost effective.
For 50 more manpower and 10 more muni get yourself 2 Mp20 volks squads and own that bar squad son.
nuff said
2 mp40 volks are 10 pop. |
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| Jazzhead
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 10:34:53 pm » |
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KCH are underpowered. Completely not cost effective.
For 50 more manpower and 10 more muni get yourself 2 Mp20 volks squads and own that bar squad son.
nuff said
volks are even worse than lmg grens b/c they have to rush the rifles to do damage, but then they get suppressed (and naded) and can't do shit |
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| UndeathWrath
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 11:10:34 pm » |
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thats why you have 2. 1 to flank. use cover.
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| Rocksitter
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 11:50:32 pm » |
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I was saying has a Doctrine unlock so it would take PP.
Like in place of pervitin pills or Specialized weapons or combined with another doctrine ability would be nice not sure what tier it would be thou ...
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« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 11:52:34 pm by Rocksitter »
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| Jazzhead
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 11:55:27 pm » |
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thats why you have 2. 1 to flank. use cover.
How does that affect volks getting suppressed? 1 rifle can suppress multiple squads anyway. As for cover, the whole map is usually one huge piece of yellow cover, so it doesnt make a difference |
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| UndeathWrath
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 12:00:58 am » |
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A) you spread them apart so that they don't both get suppressed
B) use cover, if not available that means the rifles don't have cover either. and firepower wise, you will outgun them. Supressed squads still fire. So you got 1 mp40 volks lightin up the rifles while they are suppressing, and having the suppressed volks deal some descent dmg. 2 mp40 volks > 1 bar rifles. 1 KCH < 1 bar rifles. That is the point im making.
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| Rocksitter
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 12:24:52 am » |
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My thing is why not, just because airborne have it that's not a good reason to not give fire up to the KCH...
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ImmanioEiR
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 03:38:13 am » |
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A) you spread them apart so that they don't both get suppressed
A good player will still suppress both with a BAR squad, and a poor player won't suppress both even if they're not spread out. With a BAR on SF, it's a question of targeting one squad, then switching target to the second when the first is suppressed, not AoE suppression. |
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 07:10:08 am » |
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If you go down the Pervitin tree and get the ambulance you'll have cost effective KCH. I tried that combo and it resulted in some 40~ kill KCH squads.
Fearless basically nullyfies bar supression because you keep killing the rifles as you charge while they dont even damage you at all. Pervitin helps for that aswell.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 07:19:49 am » |
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pervertin pills is good for KCH only, yes. you dont really notice the -15HP it deducts, mainly because of their heroic armor. it sucks on other infantry though.
fireup on KCH would be just as op as it is on rangers and AB. nice idea to make it a doctrine unlock though.
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