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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2010, 12:07:19 am » |
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last post for awhile, I promise. Could you define covering fire, and give me a hint how much more area the marder can handle now? Thanks for your work and patience, sorry to be a pain.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2010, 12:10:25 am » |
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Covering fire is basically suppressive fire.
Marder increased arc is exactly half way between a marder's normal arc and an ATG's arc. It's a 60 degree frontal arc.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2010, 12:12:15 am » |
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brn tests the new units...why they need to be vet3 is beyond me though.
I don;t test all new units, this one blindsided me tbh. And i played 4 matches with that unit and it earned vet 3. It's now dead. but I already have a vet 2 one. People keep stopping their infantry rush right infront of the nebel and it whores them |
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He thinks Tactics is a breath mint Wow I think that was the nicest thing brn ever posted!  the pussy of a prostitute is not tight enough for destroy a condom  |
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2010, 12:20:20 am » |
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The new nebl is just ridiculous tbfh. It has crazy range and is strong against pretty much everything. It's ROF is very high too given the amount of damage it already does. The worst part about it though is its damage resistance. It's not like a normal support weapon where small arms and nades do damage. A direct nade did no damage at all. Even AB just scratched it...
I'm all for new units, but this one needs to seriously be rethought.
I found it to be fairly mediocre. Accuracy is bad, can't hit moving vehicles at all unless you're shooting at a churchill. I'm not sure what you are on about with the damage resistance comment. Considering it has exactly the same armor type and provides the exactly the same cover as a pak/57mm, the crew is also exactly the same as a pak crew. I think people need to stop exaggerating and actually try units out before whining they're OP. So what you're saying is, b/c my opinion is not yours, it's wrong and wildly exaggerated? Just b/c i'm not a dev doesn't mean i can't comment on what happened in a game. Here you go then http://www.filefront.com/16998271/temp.rechttp://www.filefront.com/16998295/EuropeInRuinsBattle.sgap.s. I was wondering Brn how did you already have a vet3 new nebl? No, I'm saying you are whining about something that is literally identical to 57mm and paks. You are saying the nebel crew is too tough when they are exactly the same as a pak crew. So yeah, I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. Burn has a vet 3 because he played like 3 games and got it to vet 3. The vet reqs are the same as a pak. So did you watch the replay? Nade does nothing. Quad does nothing on crew. AB barely damage it. etc |
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2010, 12:36:59 am » |
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So did you watch the replay? Nade does nothing. Quad does nothing on crew. AB barely damage it. etc I did. It seems like the nade managed to catch the crew between the gun/green cover thus they suffered no damage, so green cover seems more likely the culprit than some hidden health buff. And the AB managed to destroy it (despite the 'barely damaging' it) Didn't catch the quad. |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2010, 01:05:04 am » |
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So did you watch the replay? Nade does nothing. Quad does nothing on crew. AB barely damage it. etc
I did, nade was just bad luck, the AB ended up killing it anyways. Quad is terrible against green cover, it's kinda like using a wirble against a 57mm from the front, pretty pointless. And here is a replay between relatively even skilled players on both sides and about even company levels and vet as well. Burn uses the new pak and the nebel. http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=15818.0 |
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Baine
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« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2010, 01:57:53 am » |
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I like that nebel and pak 36.. gives me good ideas.. portable 20mm gun like in saving private ryan!
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bbsmith
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« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2010, 01:58:42 am » |
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The 20mm was the original idea, but I could only find a model with no skin or animation.
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prove it and you'll win
I win.
k u win.
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Baine
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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2010, 02:03:44 am » |
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Can one make a thread in the relic news forum and ask for it, or even better PM one of the top modders? PS: Could just modify the unit to shoot 20mm. |
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deadbolt
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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2010, 05:15:34 am » |
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i wanted optics tbh, wtf would u buy that pak an nebel when u can just get a normal neb or normal ost? i'd rather have my vet 3 grens have a stacked 22% accuracy in green cover than some fail unit thats just gonna get strafed.
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He made a funny thread for bear, and got banned.
Now bear makes his own funny thread. It's unsurprisingly not funny.
Keeps died for our funny threads.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2010, 05:37:17 am » |
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because the neb and ost cost way more? . |
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« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2010, 07:42:22 am » |
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What was the idea behind the new nebel?
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Groundfire
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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2010, 07:51:04 am » |
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Giving defensive some fuckin love. <3 new nebel probably shouldnt be seeing 3 on the field at a time from 1 player tho. lol |
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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2010, 08:29:43 am » |
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everything looks so good just the slightest bit sad to see the FJ vet lt squad gone, they were so sexy.
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« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2010, 11:26:05 am » |
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wow, 4 pages and nobody answered my question.
What does cooldown do? its 25per cooldown, but still 50per reload, please explain.
rifle training.
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2010, 11:28:02 am » |
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When the garand fired it's 6 rounds there is a reload time which is halfed with this T4. Cooldown is the time between shots fired.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2010, 12:20:20 pm » |
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Panzernacker support kinda sucks, it comes in pretty slow and fires 4 or 5 or so inaccuret shots. Very easy to totaly avoid it. Just move out of its way. Atleast so far thats how it looks like. Must be good for destroying engine damage tanks.
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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2010, 12:47:41 pm » |
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Giving defensive some fuckin love. <3 new nebel probably shouldnt be seeing 3 on the field at a time from 1 player tho. lol No I mean historically just wondering if the neb fired like this I guess I could just look it up... |
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2010, 04:22:38 pm » |
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When the garand fired it's 6 rounds there is a reload time which is halfed with this T4. Cooldown is the time between shots fired.
hmmmm... guess iam not going rifle training now.. sigh, time to redo my doc choices again. |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2010, 04:26:11 pm » |
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Rifle training is still a great Tier 4 it blanket buffs so many units.
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