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[DarkSoldierX]

25% chance to shrug off a sticky isnt worth it to being not just more suspectible to mines but enemy fire too under yellow to red HP.

Example. A ATG has a a 95% chance to do nothing and a 5% chance to destroy secondary weapon vs normal armour critical tables on yellow HP
but
A ATG has a 75% of doing nothing and a 25% chance of doing engine damage vs elite armour critical tables on yellow HP.

Stop making me quote myself . 25% chance to dodge stickies isnt worth it.

[Tymathee]

did you read my 2nd paragraph? or did you just read the first one get pissed and go back to find your post

[CrazyWR]

what's the #1 threat to most axis armor from americans? Stickies, i've seen so many threads whining about stickies, so u make the jagd less susceptible to crit dmg and people whine.

Now, what I may agree with is that it should go back since you can only have one. The change was needed when people would have 2, 3 in their company and killing it was harder than taking out a KT and with doc abilities, it'd just sit back and snipe everything, now it's more like every other tank.

I just think stickies should be rewarded, since any competent Jagd  user only very rarely gets hit with stickies, whereas mines are something it takes far more care to avoid...

[Tymathee]

true but i just went against two TH players both with jagds and they're still a b*tch to kill

[DarkSoldierX]

ATG spam? RR spam? 2 M10s work unless they are both on the field though thats a sever lack of anti infantry, epecialy considering all they have very little for low pop surpression other than captured HMGs.

[NightRain]

I think that Jagdpanther is the only tank that 2 M10s cant kill alone

[Tymathee]

ATG spam? RR spam? 2 M10s work unless they are both on the field though thats a sever lack of anti infantry, epecialy considering all they have very little for low pop surpression other than captured HMGs.

ATG spam didn't work, RR spam doesn't always work, 2 m10s didn't work, we actually had about 3 or 4, it took over 15 minutes to beat one and the other one got away

The fact is, if you're soloing your jagd and expect it to win you're an idiot, but if u back it up with other AT it's nearly impossible to beat, i saw that in action tonight.

[Mysthalin]

ATG spam? RR spam? 2 M10s work unless they are both on the field though thats a sever lack of anti infantry, epecialy considering all they have very little for low pop surpression other than captured HMGs.

Because people still think Scout Cars with MGs are just a legend..

[DarkSoldierX]

Which will get killed by the 57mm and RRs. Who gives a shit if they have dodge armour when setup? They take more damage from american AT weapons when they are set up so theirs no point. The extra HP it gets is negated too. The scout car /w MG only gets kills when the enemy doesnt know its upgraded, (im surprised they are just that stupid) If they have to move the jagdpanther back to supporting AT, thats fine, you capture more grounds and his supporting units that stay near you you can now kill.

[EliteGren]

RRs are a very poor counter against MG Scoutcars, you'd be stupid to charge one of those with your RRs.

[CommanderHolt]

Jagdpanther doesn't need to move back to it supporting AT, the supporting AT comes to it.

[DarkSoldierX]

Oh hai l2p use M10 suicide spam work every tiem.

[Tymathee]

RRs are a very poor counter against MG Scoutcars, you'd be stupid to charge one of those with your RRs.

+1, i made the mistake, they suppress like mg42's, its like charing airborne at an mg42, then if ur chaging at the scout car, any other ai around it will chop u to pieces once u get exhausted

[Demon767]

Darksoldier, stop using counter/counter arguements. that does not solve anything.

btw your wrong

and this is the wrong thread to start with

[Tymathee]

Oh hai l2p use M10 suicide spam work every tiem.

maybe you suck with Jagds cuz seriously, if u go down to m10 spam, get better teammates or more AT along with jagd. Just like a Tiger, King Tiger, Panther, or Pershing, the tank is only as good as its support.

[DarkSoldierX]

Ive killed a KT and a jagdpanther on at the same time with 3 M10s and my allies 1 ATG and a bazook squad. Not much to it. And to a extent, Tiger and peshing can work wonders on their own for a bit. Jagdpanther cant be 60 meters from the supposed front lines.

[Tymathee]

and what did they have covering it? ffs you and Firespark are doing the same argument. Alone yes, they get raped, but the unit is only as strong as it's support, if there's no support, it's useless imo

i mean seriously i could beat them both with just 2 m10's probably, heck i held off a vet 2 tiger, vet 2 jagdpanther and panther with a single Vet 3 Firefly but i also had good support so they had to keep backing off and i kept picking away

[Demon767]

and what did they have covering it? ffs you and Firespark are doing the same argument. Alone yes, they get raped, but the unit is only as strong as it's support, if there's no support, it's useless imo

i mean seriously i could beat them both with just 2 m10's probably, heck i held off a vet 2 tiger, vet 2 jagdpanther and panther with a single Vet 3 Firefly but i also had good support so they had to keep backing off and i kept picking away

Exactly +1

[DarkSoldierX]

Lets see.... They were supporting eachother, and had fail volks trying to support them. Easy 2 kill. Keep in mind they all wernt sent in at the same time Vs. them.

[Grundwaffe]

Darksoldier, stop using counter/counter arguements. that does not solve anything.

btw your wrong

and this is the wrong thread to start with

lol.