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[WriterX]

The recent discussion concerning ABs made me think whether it's sensible to make a company where instead of basic infantry you use Elite Infantry (ABs, Rangers, Storm Troopers, Commandos). I know that this works rather well in AB companies. Anybody have any experience with the other Elite Infantry types?

[Tymathee]

doesn't work as well as with ab because ab only really works cuz of doc buffs but even then you can't have all AB because of infantry pool costs

[Smokaz]

AB is the only thing thats really good and popular, storms are too expensive

[Mysthalin]

Storms work pretty well, but you still need at least a pair of MG42s if you're going with STG44s - so you can suppress the enemy inf before you unleash a hail of bullets from up close.

Rangers and commandos? No way.

Falls with G43s? Decent, but requires extensive 50mm/Marder support, which can get pretty damn micro-strenuous.

[MittinsKittens]

AB is the only thing thats really good and popular, storms are too expensive

Would say Commandos too since you get the Droppable MG's/Mortars and even Tanks.
Shame that the company will rape you in the ass due to the muni cost...and the MP cost too :<

[Smokaz]

Its not supposed to work, but it works with AB because they can overpower almost any kind of unit combination by sheer numbers

[Ran]

You cant do it with wher because the cost of KCH means anymore than 4 squads and you have limited support options. Unlike AB they cannot nuetralise enemy armour, the shreks are shit (shit damage, shit range and shit aiming time). They are pure anti inf and you will need the support elements to combat the armour. I think if you do do this you also need oak leaves whihc means terror doctrine by default, otherwise they are just to brittle.

KCH seem to be suppressed rather easily as well by brens and MGs (of any variety). Assualt grenades I think should be on recharge not a 1 of use. Its the KCH equivelent of Fireup by the looks of it as it seems to break the supression but once you use it thats it no more get out jail free cards.

All the other axis inf just cant compete in 1:1 slugging matches with brens or AB inf from what Ive seen. You just cant compete with mass cheaper units that can nuetralise your heavy tanks and go head to head with your Elite Inf units. 

Looking at costs;

KCH (4man) its 360MP /130Mun / Pop 6 / Pool 9 + 50Mu (Assault Nades) + 25 (Medkits)


AB Inf is 280MP / Pop 6 / Pool 7 + 95Mu (Bar) + 95 (Sticky)

The top one is pure anti inf, 25% more exp and cant go head to head with the bottom one on a 1 on 1 basis in my exp. The bottom one can nuetralise armour, turned out in mass, air droppable and matches the best of the axis AI options. If the AB go for grenades your doubly fucked if your playing an "elite inf" wehr company.

[Mysthalin]

KCH... Suppressed by brens?

When you literally need a minimum of 400 bullets to suppress the KCH squad?

When you literally have more than 4 times more suppression recovery than a bren squad deals suppression per second?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the KCH DIEING to the brens is a bigger issue than them being suppressed by the brens...

[Smokaz]

I think thats besides the point anyways, and I am inclined to agree that KCH stand out as expensive when you consider the uberduberness of ab rifles

[Mysthalin]

Oh, I also disagree that 4 man KCH lose to BAR airborne.
If anything, losing a single man in the engagement should already bring shame on you and your offspring to the 3rd generation.