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[Firesparks]

the current prices seems a bit low, or the site main gun is a bit too powerful.


Without the site main gun ability I would say that the 300 mp 140 fu price tag is fitting, but the site main gun ability have almost no penalty to speak of and the bonus is very powerful as well.

[CommanderHolt]

What are the bonuses for Site Main Gun? (Besides extra sight range.)

[Firesparks]

10% extra damage (150 -> 165)
35% extra penetration
fire 1 second faster (6 sec -> 5 sec)
.65 received accuracy. 

[TheLastArmada]

ROF increase ?

[jackmccrack]

.65 received accuracy? That's crazy! My Marders get hit by AT 100% it seems, when I am sited!

[Firesparks]

.65 received accuracy? That's crazy! My Marders get hit by AT 100% it seems, when I am sited!

marder doesn't have phase armor, but I've noticed that sometime the 57mm does seems to miss more often.

Put the marder in a big enough crater to stack the site main gun bonus with the passive vehicle cover.

[Tymathee]

well, the fact that they can't fire on the move and they're basically mobile at guns (much like the 50mm...wait we have dual role units :|) explains their cheap price and because they can be so fragile and easy to kill, you rarely see a  lot of them tbh. I may see a max of 4 in a game, much like a sherman, m10, 50mm, p4 etc

[Demon767]

Yea there powerful, but as tym mentioned, are very fragile, a glass cannon and a extreme bitch to micro. You got the possibility to buy loads yes. but than it digs into your fuel, fuel which you need for other aspects of any PE company.

maybe you might have a point, im not yet convinced yet cuz they attract ATG's like a magnet

[Heartmann]

Marders are fine, They are one of the hardest At units to micro, with bad pathing and slow turning speed makes them also a very attractive target.

[Grundwaffe]

How could you even complain at the MARDER..

[MittinsKittens]

Wow, Firesparks, Not really?
They are so fragile that its not funny, and if something rushes the tank, the marder is dead since the pathing of the unit is just dreadful :/
I rather just take an 50mm

[brn4meplz]

Theres 2 methods to effectively using Marders.

Site Main gun on a road for the road move speed bonus which helps with turning. but will pretty much void the .65 recevied accuracy bonus.

or put it in cover to boost the received accuracy bonus but get slowed by cover modifiers.

if your Scorched Earth you get the best of both worlds by Siting on a road and building a Roadblock to block shots for you. It works incredibly well.

Marders got a price decrease because they were never fielded, being more expensive then 50mm's and more population. They both fill the same role essentially but now the difference is cost/pool/population. I like the way it's worked out so far

[Smokaz]

Hmm I grab two 88s and the rest of my fuel into marders for AT, it works well.. worked.. up until yesterday

Try playing with marders on map like Doghouse

Might as well buy hotchkiss stukas for at there

Marders alone can't work on any map

[Spartan_Marine88]

Marders take a real bite out of heavy tanks but faster ones will kick there ass, use light at-halftrack with treadbreaker and you got a deadly combo

[MittinsKittens]

Try playing with marders on map like Doghouse

Try playing PE on a map like Doghouse, The whole place is shotblocking heaven.
and the fact that most of PE AT don't really have Turrets make it hell. Its the one map I refuse to play as or with PE players. :/

[Groundfire]

Doghouse has potential tho. It needs a major rework, but i love the concept of an industrial infantry dominant map.

Actually shermans did quite well for me the time I played it, but i can see anything without a turret would just get boned.

Would be nice if everything was crushable or destructable that way you get the appearance of closetrafobia, but with some work, you can make the area playable with tanks.

[metristanharris]

Doghouse is awesome by far my favorite map never lost as brits on it

[fallensoldier7]

The last time I played on this map someone rushed me with spawn buffed Shermans since the middle pathway was a road.

[CrazyWR]

heh, gfire and I slaughtered ugly and smokaz on doghouse yesterday.  The spawn buff thing works both ways though.  PE being vehicle heavy can get to the middle very quickly repeatedly.  Took us about 15 minutes to get out of spawn...

[MittinsKittens]

Yeah, Thats another thing I hated about the map, I saw 2 Spawn protected M10's take down a Vet 2 tiger in the middle of the map because it got rushed :/
I think thats a little broken, Although thats due to the system and not the map, but still ""
Would make an awesome map if he cleared up these fun killer aspects to the map D: