Firesparks
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« on: August 18, 2010, 06:43:51 pm » |
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The Airborne sniper still do enough damage (65 dmg) to one shot Panzer grenadier (55hp), this make it a bit a bit too powerful against the PE especially since the Ab Sniper's main disadvantage is suppose to be lack of one-shot-kill.
(the airborne sniper can still do enough damage to one hit the volks and weapon crew, FYI.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 06:58:28 pm » |
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wait.. who says AB sniper main disadvantage was its inability to one-shot-kill?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2010, 06:59:59 pm » |
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wait.. who says AB sniper main disadvantage was its inability to one-shot-kill?
if its not that, what is it? |
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MittinsKittens
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2010, 07:09:28 pm » |
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The fact it couldn't cloak at all?
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2010, 07:11:03 pm » |
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The fact it couldn't cloak at all?
It can |
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MittinsKittens
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 07:12:59 pm » |
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It CAN? Jesus, I've never seen it cloak. I've always assumed that it never could cloak in exchange for a larger shooting range and the ability to airdrop the dude  |
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 07:13:45 pm » |
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It CAN? Jesus, I've never seen it cloak. I've always assumed that it never could cloak in exchange for a bigger range and the ability to airdrop the dude All Ghillied up |
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 07:16:44 pm » |
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It used to cloak even without that, not sure if it got changed. It originally was just a sniper with AB armor and fireup that could para-drop...
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 07:18:19 pm » |
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Pretty sure it can't cloak then dudes. I've seen it UNCLOAKED so many times. Guess it was because it was shooting, but still, I'm sure it can't. Least, feels that way.
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Firesparks
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 07:19:33 pm » |
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Pretty sure it can't cloak then dudes. I've seen it UNCLOAKED so many times. Guess it was because it was shooting, but still, I'm sure it can't. Least, feels that way.
it has heroic armor, so it's not just it needs to stay cloak all the time. |
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 07:19:48 pm » |
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if its not that, what is it?
It cant damage vehicles.. like all other infantry.. It costs more Mu Still as fragile as any other sniper T2 The fact it couldn't cloak at all?
It can cloak and fireup. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 07:21:12 pm » |
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Oh, I see then, I was horribly wrong. I keep my trap shut then ^^ Learnt something new here  |
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Firesparks
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 07:23:43 pm » |
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It cant damage vehicles.. like all other infantry..
It costs more Mu
Still as fragile as any other sniper
T2
It can cloak and fireup.
1) neither can normal sniper 2) 50 mu more 3) The ab sniper have heroic armor 4) And no, doctrine unlocks are not supposed to be better than their non-doctrinal equivilents. They're supposed to give you more freedom. If a doctrinal unlock is better than a non-doc equiv, it will most definitely cost more than the non-doc, and be balanced against ALL other units - not just other doctrinal ones.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 07:27:47 pm » |
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Doctrine units are usually more specialized and better than non-doctrine units. Why would you waste points to unlock a unit that is no more effective than what you have already when you can get offmaps or activated abilities for the same points?
Unlocked units have to be better than the normal units or they just aren't viable.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2010, 07:31:42 pm » |
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Doctrine units are usually more specialized and better than non-doctrine units. Why would you waste points to unlock a unit that is no more effective than what you have already when you can get offmaps or activated abilities for the same points?
Unlocked units have to be better than the normal units or they just aren't viable.
exactly. If the AB sniper wasnt able to one shot all of the Axis basic infantry.. why take it than. AB Sniper still is countered by the same counters of any other Basic sniper. Its just slightly harder. which is justifyed. Its a Doctrine unit- T2. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2010, 07:36:32 pm » |
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6. Rage Posting
Users sometimes feel that the whole Dev team changes stats on purpose right before their game starts and then they come here like 10 year old kids who believe they can take on everyone because they just simply are right and nobody can prove them wrong. From now on a rage thread/post will be moderated on sight, do us a favor and take a cold bath before posting after a bad game please, we all have had bad games but that doesn't allow us to rage in the forums.
Posting a rage post or similar will result in you being banned from the balance forum.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 07:47:36 pm » |
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He's not rage posting? He's just asking if it needs fixing? I think? Maybe...
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 07:52:00 pm » |
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noo mittins. he is rage posting. the last game he was in involved the AB Sniper. i was in that game to, i should know.
Seriously, i dont believe theres anything wrong with the Unit. So what if hes a little stronger. That what makes this game fun. Having units that are quite strong over other equivalents.
Back in the day where all the doctrines were overpowered, Those were great days, i enjoyed those days. They were really fun cuz you can make a OP company out of any path you went, and so could your opponents. Now its just all bland and nothing really feels strong anymore. i mean hey i can use a lvl 1 acc and beat lvl 9's without a sweat. But thats what the devs wanted. a game to help more casual gamers. And hey it helps me now, i rarely get any time to play now, it enables me to beat anyones company, no matter the lvl.
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MittinsKittens
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 07:58:08 pm » |
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Oh I see. Got ya.
And yeah, I've won 2 games in a row with my Rank 1 SE against like a level 9,6 and a 1 with me with a 5 and 4. Makes for fairer games, and maybe more fun games since you don't have to dread starting a new company x3
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Firesparks
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 08:00:24 pm » |
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exactly. If the AB sniper wasnt able to one shot all of the Axis basic infantry.. why take it than.
AB Sniper still is countered by the same counters of any other Basic sniper. Its just slightly harder. which is justifyed. Its a Doctrine unit- T2.
PG isn't exactly "basic infantry". The PG are a bit more expensive than the volks.
And no, doctrine unlocks are not supposed to be better than their non-doctrinal equivilents. They're supposed to give you more freedom. If a doctrinal unlock is better than a non-doc equiv, it will most definitely cost more than the non-doc, and be balanced against ALL other units - not just other doctrinal ones.
Doctrine units are usually more specialized and better than non-doctrine units. Why would you waste points to unlock a unit that is no more effective than what you have already when you can get offmaps or activated abilities for the same points?
Unlocked units have to be better than the normal units or they just aren't viable.
exactly. If the AB sniper wasnt able to one shot all of the Axis basic infantry.. why take it than.
AB Sniper still is countered by the same counters of any other Basic sniper. Its just slightly harder. which is justifyed. Its a Doctrine unit- T2.
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