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Author Topic: Duck or die’s Tactics is WRONG  (Read 7697 times)
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Duckordie Offline
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« on: August 19, 2007, 11:39:27 am »

Ok, I have tried this for a time now, And with this I mean 3-4 days. So don’t bring up any old stuff… Sad

I just had a game and did use my new tactic again, note tomorrow I hade this for 3 weeks.
The only problem with my tactics that I get “DUCKORDIE!!! YOU FUCKING NOOB!! ”OOOOH DUCK OR DIE IS THE WORST PLAYER” And “Duck or die is the best allied player, and still he is Axis” And so on, witch makes me sad, Now I know I am not elite at micro or what you guys call it.

Now, at my last game I did not have any Tanks, only 4 Flakpanzer IV (Ostwind)
Because three reasons, the tanks is one, almost always destroyed, two, Stupid, they don’t do exactly what you tell them to do, three, M10 always lurks the Conner.  Undecided
Before (some one) comes here, I just say it, Yeah, I fucked away 2 Flak panzer, because so many things happed at the same time and I could not do everything at the same time. So that was a waste, the other one got blown up. The third one got hit by howitzer. (And also take with him a Panther, and I still clams that that was not my fault. Any way, just say this before the flaming.

Any way, my Tactics are simple, don’t use tank and only use anti stuff, ex: Anti tank, anti Infantry, anti this and anti that. A lot of snipers and Nebbels.
With this you can if you do it right always do right, the problem no one dose this and this looks odd. There for people start complaining. So I just ask, is it OK to use your own Tactics? Or do you have to do like every one ells?  Because I can do that, and that way I will Bring the normal stuff, volks, Panzer 4, Panther, And so on.

Now, this is a Pic of my last game: Note I did do some friendly fire and killed 3 volks… That’s all. And with them I got 2 Anti guns.
Now Is this bad I mean? 155 kills and lost 67… That’s not that bad. I got the howitzer to. Kiss

The problem with my Tactics, is that it takes to muck time, and there for A LOT of all battles I am not there for the view, because I have to look other places, that’s makes why my tanks just drive away, bec I am not following them, that why I made my Poster, “Stay away from me” I Really would love a “Hold ground” Bottom, so they will STAY and not move even though they get attacked or “defend place” So they don’t run to far away,  NOTE: I am not MAD ay any one Smiley, I am just cheking out Smiley, by the way, Unkn0wn PM and told me some stuff, that will help me improve my game play, thanks Unkn0wn
I do this bec I have now players ho wont play with me… Don’t know why Huh



 
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 11:42:11 am »

No you just pissed me off because you brought 4 flakpanzers who didn't do jack shit in total.
(While a panzer IV or panther is clearly a better choice, flakpanzers are crap against armour you know)

It doesn't work basing yourself just on Anti Tank infantry. Every proper strategy needs a tank Wink.

The nebelwerfers were awesome and got you all those kills, the flakpanzers are a very replacable part of your strategy.
(You only need 1 and you should've kept it with your nebels because they really tear apart airbourne.)



Also i'll always like you just because you bought CoH for EiR Wink.
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Lai Offline
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 11:47:33 am »

Haha, funniest thread today.

Can we get some in-game TS-quotes? I'm sure unkn0wn was pissed about something  Grin Grin

Duck or die is the best allied player, and still he is Axis

You will learn to keep track of your units and move your tanks properly.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 11:58:12 am »

The best part was probably his flakpanzer blocking off the damaged panther between the repair bunkers when the artillery hit... Flakpanzer got pwned, 5% bug on panther, main gun knocked off but survived.

Then the panther tried to roll back, airbourne got dropped in and the tiger killed the panther trying to shoot the freaking airbourne.


Oh god that was the most hilarious TK scene ever.
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Duckordie Offline
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 11:58:37 am »

Yeah, I am like a Baybe at this game  Cool, Like the part i Use my Golith and blow up a Panther, it was my 3rd game in this game, and had that that big clue of what it could do, thot it where for blowing up briges, but I Dont use those more... I Kinda do more damge with them than they do good (By best kill with a Goliath is still 3 Ranger squads runing to home)  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 12:04:10 pm »

I'm more pissed at Unkn0wn for TKing my vet 2 Panther.
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Lai Offline
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 12:13:31 pm »

Ouch
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 12:19:07 pm »

If you weren't in the middle of that artillery barrage because of Duck or Die and would've actually rolled your panther back further instead of keeping it in the middle of some airbourne troops the Tiger Ace wouldn't have actually been able to even miss that horribly.
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Compact Flash Offline
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 12:21:42 pm »

Nothing wrong wwasn't in this experimenting ... though I'm glad I wasn't in this battle with all the TKing that happened lol...
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Jazlizard Offline
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2007, 02:57:26 pm »

I think trying to find your own playstyle and tactics are cool. I think there ARE definetly some tactics that just don't work.

I think 4 flaks is a bit much, and you should probably trade at least 2 of those out for some pIV's or something.

The only thing I hate is people who play with totally ridiculous companies in a serious game and by silly I mean like 1000 volks and like nothing else or a million flamming pio's etc.

Otherwise feel free to continue to try stuff that works for you, it sounds like you'd be great at supporting folks with support weapons like nebels and stuckas etc. They don't require too much micro and when properly used and protected can be a major pain in the ass to your opponent. Just let your teammates know ahead of time what type of role/company you'll be bringing to the fight, and I'm sure that will go a long way towards people enjoying playing with you.

I know I for one hate getting into a game and my partner says 'I have no AT' or something like that, it's really annoying and totally changes the way I have to play, especially if my company isn't very strong in that department either.

Anyways I'm sure Unkn0wn had some good tips for you as well. Bottom line is your micro/macro will probably get better the more you play and the types of companies you can build and actually play well will grow as you become more comfortable with CoH and EiR.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2007, 04:35:21 pm »

I never said stormtroopers suck, I said unupgraded and by using them as a main infantry unit they suck btw Wink.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 08:17:27 pm »

Just follow some simple guidelines when playing axis with duck:

- Never turn the back of your tank towards him
- Shoot Goliaths on sight
- If you hear a Nebel, run

Then you should never have any trouble with him


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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 08:47:37 pm »

- Always keep his tank in front of yours, where you can watch him.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 10:48:58 pm »

-Watch out for his fatty blocking Ostwinds.
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Coti Offline
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2007, 05:31:19 am »

I also bought Company of heroes for EiR!!!!!
WHERE IS MY MEDAL?! Huh 
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 05:49:30 am »

Nice one Coti.  Cheesy

That's two swedes that bought CoH just for EiR... fldash is very pleased with how Sweden is coming through.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 06:05:55 am »

I also bought Company of heroes for EiR!!!!!
WHERE IS MY MEDAL?! Huh 

Medal? Medal?!! What a fuck are you taking about?!
I Don´t have a medal i have a dam fotprint in my ass!
I am sure to hell thats not a medal! And not  a Iron cross
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2007, 05:04:15 pm »

Its in the mail Coti. But seriously, Panthers seem to own so much allied ass, especially with Armour Plating, just so long as you don't turn your back at all costs.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2007, 05:09:19 pm »

Actually without German Steel panthers are pretty crappy.
That is of course if you actually attack with them, exposing your flanks & rear...

If you let panthers defend and take shots up front they're pretty powerful.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2007, 05:42:07 am »

Insanly power full if your as unlucky as me.

I attacked a Phanter (with Skirts w/e GS)
with 2 m10´s beautifully in a open place driving around it one m10 on each side

evry m10 fired 3 shoots on the run,
first two obvilously bounced off the front armor
the next 2 (1 form each side ) bounced of the side armor
the next 2 (in the rear) bounced off from the rear doing like   5/100 dmg

Phanter turns around i repeat.
"Enter same here"

Phanter surives nearly unharmed  molesting me for the rest of the game.
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