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SX23 Offline
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« on: November 23, 2010, 05:16:02 pm »

After reading the other thread, I've came to the conclusion that the question we might ask is not whether Chine and North Korea are allies, but is much more oriented towards:
 "In the event of a military breakthrough between North Korea and International power, would Chinese side or engage military actions to sustain their Allie, the North Koreans?"
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 05:24:29 pm »

The most likely event is Attack North Korea. China trades $200 Billion a year with S. Korea. They can't afford to have North korea dropping nuclear weapons on them.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 05:26:58 pm »

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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 05:39:20 pm »

The most likely event is Attack North Korea. China trades $200 Billion a year with S. Korea. They can't afford to have North korea dropping nuclear weapons on them.

And they are less likely to want the US dropping nukes on thier neighbours, also as the Japanese showed in WW2 there doctrines for military consider non-asians to often be cowardly and weak they may think its easier to win a war against the US and Nato then it is against the 9 million strong NK army.

Also no one thought that China would attack us during the Korean war, and they did it. It really just comes down to who they hate less. And with all the grief the US has been giving Russia over the early warning sites in Poland (the nukes being aimed at Britain) There is another possible ally waiting.

In my honest opinion, it'll just be another cold war in the works, or if worst comes to worst, a non-nuclear war as nukes would just radiate the land/resource that is the real reason for said wars for 50 years.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 06:08:42 pm »

No one noticed how good looking *every* girl is?
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 06:18:44 pm »

No one noticed how good looking *every* girl is?

... you obviously havent seen many asians than. there not good looking.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 06:20:14 pm »

Australia - China and North korea against the lot of you noob countries. its happening.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 06:21:36 pm »

Requesting the new warmap to be set in the Korean peninsula and surroundings
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 06:23:27 pm »

Requesting the new warmap to be set in the Korean peninsula and surroundings

Interesting idea for a mod tbh the original Korean war. Nato instead of Brits, US for US, NK instead of Wher and China instead of PE
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 06:58:22 pm »

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Interesting idea for a mod tbh the original Korean war. Nato instead of Brits, US for US, NK instead of Wher and China instead of PE

Now theres an idea that would sell!
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 07:01:27 pm »

Also forgot, a unique triage for americans The Mash 4077
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 08:07:23 pm »

North Korea just rattles their Saber, they didn't fire artillery into SK but just onto the area around the border, they're cowards, they don't want a fight with SK, cuz they know they don't have the tech that SK has, plus a lot of NK troops may just say "screw this' and not fight.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 08:16:27 pm »

I don't see why they wouldn't fight, I thought all Best Koreans are basically brainwashed into loving their glorious leader, and only a few don't. But I'm not an expert on Best Korea so maybe I'm wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2010, 08:31:29 pm »

well mister kinjoniel, is crazy as hell lmao. if a war were to break out, i dont have any doubts they would quickly resort to nulclear arms. and in so, im sure alot of nations would step in to run them over.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 08:33:19 pm »

well mister kinjoniel, is crazy as hell lmao. if a war were to break out, i dont have any doubts they would quickly resort to nulclear arms. and in so, im sure alot of nations would step in to run them over.

Crazy yes, stupid no. Tbh he is smart as hell, and would know that as he has alot less nukes then anyone else he would def lose that type of war.
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SX23 Offline
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 08:38:43 pm »

Crazy yes, stupid no. Tbh he is smart as hell, and would know that as he has alot less nukes then anyone else he would def lose that type of war.

Or perhaps not; having use of the nuclear weapon hereby declare you as the most efficient army in the world. If South Korea were to be destroyed by nuclear means, you would see a lot of hesitation from the international community; the first option would be to involve their armies against a country that can wipe most of their military might in a few salvos, and the second option, being bombing South Korea to rubble either with conventional means or nuclear means would either meant major radiation fallouts on China; or major public disapproval. In both cases, the major nations have way too much to lose to either engage in one of those way efficiently.
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2010, 08:39:39 pm »

You guys are seriously debating about the military power of North Korea?

It's really not that scary of a nation, it's capabilities are limited to basically its neighbors as far as aggressions. Sure it has a large standing armor, but everything else is pretty sub-par, in the first Korean war it was fought from a fairly equal technological standpoint, in the current age it would be a one sided beat down.
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2010, 08:43:56 pm »

You guys are seriously debating about the military power of North Korea?

It's really not that scary of a nation, it's capabilities are limited to basically its neighbors as far as aggressions. Sure it has a large standing armor, but everything else is pretty sub-par, in the first Korean war it was fought from a fairly equal technological standpoint, in the current age it would be a one sided beat down.

I believe that was said about the Vietnam War too. They have alot of fortifications, a fanatical will, and it is the most secretive country on the planet.

Also its well known that all militaries indoctrinate thier soldiers to believe that every country is far weaker then there own.

Also, were not going to let SK to just fall, the UN will send troops again, (we won't nuke so close to our own ally) and a land war will ensue.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2010, 08:55:53 pm »

And Vietnam was lost solely due to politicians saying we were not allowed to actually attack the enemy.

If we actually fought a total war, North Korea would be destroyed in a matter of weeks, if not days.

The issue when fighting a war, is not that the weapons and soldiers can't do it, it's that the politicians won't let you do it.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2010, 09:09:26 pm »

And Vietnam was lost solely due to politicians saying we were not allowed to actually attack the enemy.

If we actually fought a total war, North Korea would be destroyed in a matter of weeks, if not days.

The issue when fighting a war, is not that the weapons and soldiers can't do it, it's that the politicians won't let you do it.

Really? Honestly thats bull, it was a total war the government just never admitted it. The troops werent ready for it, your guns got the wrong gun powder. The home front didn't support it. The rotation of the Soldier every year to prevent breakdown caused the troops to never understand the terrain.  The enemy had fought the British then the French over the same ground knew it like the back of thier hand, were vetrans of war especially that type of war. (tbh they had been fighting off and on against various enemies for about 116 years at the end of that war)

Almost 2 million forces fought the approximate 500 000 Opposition, about 300 000 were Viet Cong. About 530 000 were American.

American Casualties alone were approx. 50 k dead, 1 k missing and 300 k wounded.

Vietnamese Civilian casualties 2 mil.


But no it was just a conflict. Because conflicts cause mass bombing runs, a chemical agent to destroy the terrain to find the enemy (that caused cancer)

A Cornell University study placed the over-all total U.S. cost
of the Vietnam war at $200 Billion

Total U.S. bomb tonnage dropped during:
     World War II =   2,057,244 tons
     Vietnam War =  7,078,032 tons  (3-1/2 times WWII
     tonnage, but still just a conflict)

Bomb tonnage dropped during the Vietnam War amounted to
1,000 lbs. for every man, woman and child in Vietnam.

An estimated 70,000 draft evaders and "dodgers" were living
in Canada by 1972.

And who has to conscript soldiers (the draft) for a 'conflict', not to forget the US was chased out with its tail between there legs, abandoning over a thousand POWs in enemy hands. Of which remains of those are still being sought after
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