Smokaz
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 03:31:49 pm » |
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Rangers with zooks *without tank reapers* are light vehicle counters and flankers, not counters to medium tanks.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2010, 03:32:52 pm » |
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Rangers with zooks *without tank reapers* are light vehicle counters and flankers, not counters to medium tanks.
well that's quite obvious. |
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Demon767
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2010, 03:33:34 pm » |
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what smokaz said.. but i see a problem..
im not gonna bother anything else cuz this is turning into bias defence. plainly see now when you see IST give your m10 damaged engine and somehow IST 1 shot your ATG crew.. a rushing IST at m10+ATG will die horribly.. but somehow you made a scenario that it looses.. i rest my case
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2010, 03:35:49 pm » |
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what smokaz said.. but i see a problem..
im not gonna bother anything else cuz this is turning into bias defence. plainly see now when you see IST give your m10 damaged engine and somehow IST 1 shot your ATG crew.. a rushing IST at m10+ATG will die horribly.. but somehow you made a scenario that it looses.. i rest my case
my original case was THAT the IP4 should not get to MOVE while the IST is active. that was the original thing. and i was trying to explane the tactic i used but still the INf support tank is shit against m10s |
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Demon767
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2010, 03:36:30 pm » |
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and why do you say that?
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2010, 03:38:46 pm » |
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and why do you say that?
that i should not get to move? well its really annoying when someone has ist active and followes you units while fleeing, yet while driving it allmost allways hits the units. |
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2010, 03:40:01 pm » |
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so its really annoying = nerf...
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Smokaz
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2010, 03:40:44 pm » |
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my original case was THAT the IP4 should not get to MOVE while the IST is active.
that was the original thing.
and i was trying to explane the tactic i used
but still the INf support tank is shit against m10s
the accuracy of the IST is so bad that it would be a double nerf its already pretty poor at fighting while moving, the ability makes it seem better than it actually is just because of the sheer output of shells |
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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2010, 03:41:31 pm » |
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so its really annoying = nerf...
i am not saying it should be Nerf ed beyond uselessness, i am just saying it should eater get really slowed down or immobilized |
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2010, 03:43:11 pm » |
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the accuracy of the IST is so bad that it would be a double nerf
its already pretty poor at fighting while moving, the ability makes it seem better than it actually is just because of the sheer output of shells
i dont thing you have played against an P4 inf support tank while the IST is active. well you probably have so due to you have played this more than me. |
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2010, 03:44:56 pm » |
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Basic play principles apply to this tank as well. Turret rotation is a huge weakness for it.
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2010, 03:46:16 pm » |
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You have to get it through doctrine spilarinn. as smokaz said its a double edged sword. remember it still acts as a lockdown IST with the short range and slow moving. Its good.. its fun and if you use it yourself you will realise its a fun and good unit ot have but also very much beatable.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2010, 10:28:49 pm » |
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i dont thing you have played against an P4 inf support tank while the IST is active.
well you probably have so due to you have played this more than me.
IST is active ? Infantry Support Tank is active ? the moving IST lockdown isnt to much of a problem Spacing is key, blobbing your units = death 2 atg's spread about 10 units apart and staggered is a sound strat a Bren MMG + some form of AT is also a great counter i dont think their is anything wrong with IST lockdown, unless it gets heat rounds too |
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« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2010, 02:45:36 am » |
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I too used to think IST lockdown and move was a bit OP but then i l2p somewhat. Spotting for your atg is key, axis players will usually back away once they take ATG hits from a range they can't fire back at. If the IST's are one-shotting your atg crews possibly they're already injured and you're setting them up in a fashion that allows the IST to get close without taking hits? Either way, ATG plus jeep should counter an IST, adding an M10 to the mix should counter two if you're using them right.
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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2010, 02:50:17 am » |
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I too used to think IST lockdown and move was a bit OP but then i l2p somewhat.
This needs to be quoted for 90% of OP 'threads' nowdays. |
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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2010, 05:53:37 am » |
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IST with moving lockdown, incindiary shot with 50mm atht backup beat everything!!
Its so anoying....
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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2010, 05:54:42 am » |
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IST with moving lockdown, incindiary shot with 50mm atht backup beat everything!!
Its so anoying....
sure,,,,, do you know what you just said requires 3 t3 ? |
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2010, 06:01:26 am » |
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u mean 2 t3
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2010, 05:22:59 am » |
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You could just use an M10 or a Sherman or a pair of 57mm, which are all guaranteed to kill both the 50mm support and the PzIV unless you do something horribly, horribly wrong. Stop trying to counter the PzIV with the only thing it can kill.
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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2010, 06:57:55 am » |
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IST should be able to shoot down recon runs tbh it needs a buff  maybe like a LW buff for 1 min |
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