I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!

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[salan]

Is it me or the axis elite infantry a shade of grey lower then the allied elite infantry?

I have tried FSJ, and Stormtroopers, as well as commandos, rangers, and assault engineers so far this war... and I just am not enjoying the axis builds as much..

Truly hope they bring back the 4 man KCH, was the only real infantry unit that could compete!

[AmPM]

Same goes for armor.

If you want to have good cheap units, play Allies.

Want to have so so more expensive units, play Axis.

[Spartan_Marine88]

FSJ are awesome in my opinion, just gotta play them defensively.

Nearly all the FSJ players i have beaten i see charging up the center of the road screaming. I gots FG 42's

Stormies are at the top of the leaderboards. They just require a different play style, get in cover up close open up and the fade away. Most of my tank losses are from stormies tbh.

[salan]

sneak doesn't make them elite ...

[Artekas]

Stormies get vetted because they alpha strike a tank from cloak and immediately retreat, and basically never die because people retreat them the moment the job is done or failed, or if they get detected. However, this does not make them elite infantry.

[Demon767]

well certianly stormtroopers are not ellite infantry, they are grens with cloak so they are mainline infantry.

unfortunetely.. Axis WM do have elite infantry... which is KCH .. *sighs*
PE gets FSJ.. elite infantry?? mayybbbe. they can oblivate shit if ambush etc etc

Maybe its time to think up some interesting Elite infantry for WM and PE.

A unique elite infantry for Blitz which goes with the whole "Omfg chaarge"
Dont terror still have 4man KCH..?
A unique elite infantry for defensive thats all like "Ill just sit here and smack you some"

Didnt Scorched earth assault flammen get airborne armor..? if so.. theres your elite infantry

no special mention to tankhunters though..

[Tymathee]

Blitz - Volks KCH: Volks squad with sprint, kch as squad leader, who has mp44 and rest get mp40's, plus soldier/elite armor.
(btw, stormes get elite armor with a t4, could be interesting)

Terror - 4 man kch, bleh.

Defensive - HMG Team: 6 man squad with mg42 and soldier armor. able to protect self better than normal mg42, also sets up faster. Meh.

Or u can go with the support grenadiers.

tbh. allies focus more on infantry and need elite infantry, axis on tanks. if u think about it, axis get "Elite Tanks" in the form of the Tiger and King Tiger and Jagdpanther. Allies get...pershing

[Demon767]

hmm Tym think about it.. theres so many new better allied tanks now i think the whole "allies elite infantry and axis elite tanks" argument doesnt work anymore 

I like your blitz volks suggestion

Dont like your defensive suggestion though.. maybe 5man gren squad with 1 shrek and 1 LMG. but even i dont like my own suggestion

[panzerman]

FSJ need some sort of bonus, like i know they can now get ab armour but people say that that is not really that good.

maybe elite armour buff would be better or even as T4 heroic buff but no health boost. i mean i am suprised at how minimal they decided to slightly nerf and finger paint the axis docts and go gung ho with the allies.

also the axis tanks being better...all the new buffs in blitz are all over the place i mean if u want double or triple panther go LW cause that is ace but tiger is almost a lost with no real buff apart from 1 tier 3...which looks alright but not really enough.

tbh all axis armour right now looks useless compared to anything the allies can now wield. same with the inf

[AmPM]

Blitz - Volks KCH: Volks squad with sprint, kch as squad leader, who has mp44 and rest get mp40's, plus soldier/elite armor.
(btw, stormes get elite armor with a t4, could be interesting)

Terror - 4 man kch, bleh.

Defensive - HMG Team: 6 man squad with mg42 and soldier armor. able to protect self better than normal mg42, also sets up faster. Meh.

Or u can go with the support grenadiers.

tbh. allies focus more on infantry and need elite infantry, axis on tanks. if u think about it, axis get "Elite Tanks" in the form of the Tiger and King Tiger and Jagdpanther. Allies get...pershing

Allies get Pershing, Church Croc, and super high efficiency tank destroyers!

I know, it sucks when you have to use 1 M18 or M10 to kill a P4 or cripple a heavy tank, it must be soo rough on you.

[Tymathee]

Allies get Pershing, Church Croc, and super high efficiency tank destroyers!

I know, it sucks when you have to use 1 M18 or M10 to kill a P4 or cripple a heavy tank, it must be soo rough on you.

you quoted two tanks that could easily get defeated by both the Tiger and King Tiger and Jagdpanther. Plus a normal panther could go up a pershing or church croc and win, so boom, a non doc tank can beat a doc tank, fail.

and are you talking about a doc m18/m10 or a normal one? Cuz depending on skill, the p4 should win most of the time.

the fact is, axis are supposed to be the vehicle/tank/support weapon specialist and the allies vehicles/tanks/artillery are supposed to support the infantry.

[AmPM]

you quoted two tanks that could easily get defeated by both the Tiger and King Tiger and Jagdpanther. Plus a normal panther could go up a pershing or church croc and win, so boom, a non doc tank can beat a doc tank, fail.

and are you talking about a doc m18/m10 or a normal one? Cuz depending on skill, the p4 should win most of the time.

the fact is, axis are supposed to be the vehicle/tank/support weapon specialist and the allies vehicles/tanks/artillery are supposed to support the infantry.

FF can beat a Tiger or KT easy, non doctrine tank beating doctrine tank? Fail!

[Artekas]

I'm sorry, but are you seriously saying that the Crocodile fails because it's an über anti-infantry tank that gets raped by general purpose or specifically anti-tank tanks that cost 200+ fuel more than it? Same for Pershing failing against Panther, Pershing can fight tanks but is not meant for it, Panther is 500 fuel invested to a pure anti-tank platform. Sure it can get some infantry kills with lucky shots, but then again so can ATGs and Marders, and you wouldn't consider those general purpose units good for fighting both inf and tanks.

P4s don't really win against M10s with both players being skilled because the M10 has much better range and speed.

[smurfORnot]

croc is one of the best tanks...and when u have 2x repairs,he can kill so much and soak so much for it's cost...
then we have m10 who can kill and cripple tanks and inf very good for it's cost,and it's expandable,I would glady trade stug for him,since they are in close price range...stug can get mg,wu hoo,m10 will just run you over...but yeah,allies get it,live with it...not complaining too much...
KT in nice,slow,but can soak alot,and  I dont complain about him,Tigers are fun,but u have to use them rly careful,same with storms,rly fun to use,but they cost so many munition when you loose them,it hurts you quite a bit...But saw so many Tigers fail badly...rarely anyone knows how to use them...

Pershing has it all,he's fast,with bufs can stand to kt and tiger because of his speed ...and I bet that he can beat Tiger 1v1,and cripple KT ...since I did lost tiger to persh with HVAP bufs before...

Then we have those new  bolter engineers,I suggest we give them power armor,and leader power fist for that extra kick when they get close  so that they can take on tanks,since now they own inf and halftracks with ease,especially for their cost,which hasnt been nerfed
and I do know when allies start to whine about 280mm nebel which owned their precious blobs,so that they would actually have to use flanking,fast vehiachles etc,they got nerf in a day and guess what,no one used them after that...wonder why...

[brn4meplz]

Combat engineers cost was nerfed. The target tables against Halftracks will be fixed

[smurfORnot]

ok,new cost it more fair,tnx 

[Unkn0wn]

Combat engineers cost was nerfed. The target tables against Halftracks will be fixed

Seeing as they were your baby, find animation/sound for it too. It looks stupid.

[Demon767]

those shotguns are just crazy, they have to be a t3

[nugnugx]

t4


in storm tactics t4 pgs get rifles that are 1/5 effective of shotgun....

[Mysthalin]

The shotguns aren't free, however.