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[LeoPhone]

The two new snipers added to europe in ruins:
- Airborne Sniper
- Commando Sniper

currently have heroic and soldier armor(in that order) instead of the normal sniper armor basic snipers use. This breaks game balance big time since snipers were not ment to use any different armor. The biggest issue is that bikes have become completely useless against them but the snipers also survive other kinds of fire with ease. Snipers need to be microd well and kept at long range or else they will die. New units should not be some rapemachine that can do whatever they want. Giving them a different armor type is like giving panther armor to the hummel.

The new snipers are already more survivable than normal snipers since the AB sniper has fire up and the commando sniper has two guys & smoke.
AB sniper spam currently is impossible to beat and the change of commando sniper going to a t3 unlock simply shows how OP it is. Give them the normal sniper armor back, AB sniper could might receive a small health buff to compensate.

[NightRain]

Airborne Sniper aka Pathfinder isn't actually a sniper, its more like a scout with a sniper rifle. It has no to small crit chance unlike regular snipers. Regular snipers kills with Crit, Pathfinder with damage and crit. Ever noticed how hard time pathfinders have to snipe infantry? They usually just reduce health

+ mando sniper has no cloak so its easy to snipe/chase down. Their only defence is smoke

[LeoPhone]

AB sniper still has sniper range, so nothing changed.

commando sniper has two guys and can always be used at max range. sight is actually bigger than range so its very easy to run away when danger comes.

[EliteGren]

No? How about you inform yourself first before you complain, makes your arguments actually look serious. The AB Sniper range has been reduced

[Smokaz]

Ab sniper doesnt 1 shot all your manz

kthx

[101stGG]

Airborne doctrine is undergoing changes but I have played with pathfinders.

It is hard to actualy kill with them. Most of the time they only take health unless you can vet them level 2 at least.

[brn4meplz]

The Commando Sniper has some short comings. Namely that the Spotter walks in front and shoots everything with his crappy sten before the Marksman does. That and the Marksman only hits a Pak crew 1/3 times it seems.(he tries to shoot the gun not the crew)

[101stGG]

The Commando Sniper [...] Marksman only hits a Pak crew 1/3 times it seems.(he tries to shoot the gun not the crew)

Is that intentional or bug?

[Smokaz]

Is that intentional or bug?

Most likely a bug ? Last time I checked EIRR didn't advertise sniper rifle weapons as counters to the at gun weapon itself.

[Spartan_Marine88]

The two new snipers added to europe in ruins:
- Airborne Sniper
- Commando Sniper

currently have heroic and soldier armor(in that order) instead of the normal sniper armor basic snipers use. This breaks game balance big time since snipers were not ment to use any different armor. The biggest issue is that bikes have become completely useless against them but the snipers also survive other kinds of fire with ease. Snipers need to be microd well and kept at long range or else they will die. New units should not be some rapemachine that can do whatever they want. Giving them a different armor type is like giving panther armor to the hummel.

The new snipers are already more survivable than normal snipers since the AB sniper has fire up and the commando sniper has two guys & smoke.
AB sniper spam currently is impossible to beat and the change of commando sniper going to a t3 unlock simply shows how OP it is. Give them the normal sniper armor back, AB sniper could might receive a small health buff to compensate.

Please Leophone stop. I think you have called every single thing in this game broken and unbalanced at this point.

[101stGG]

Last time I checked EIRR didn't advertise sniper rifle weapons as counters to the at gun weapon itself.

Now that'd be fun 

[frsd]

This problem might not be existant when you'r facing one of those snipers, but me and LeoPhone had one where we were facing 3. We weren't able to do shit since they had PIAT backup etc. bikes couldn't kill them fast enough and any infantry you sent after them got rapefaced. Our own Mortars and ATG's got decrewed and they were able to one shot officers etc.

[Firesparks]

commando sniper lack active cloak which means they are very weak against other sniper.
it's wonderful if your enemy doesn't know how to properly use sniper but it's useless if your does know how to use sniper.
All this for t3...

[Artekas]

What if your opponent is PE and doesn't have a sniper, eh?

[RoyalHants]

ht wit inf in

[Smokaz]

This goes down to play, really. IPlay4keeps was a very strong commando sniper player. Didn't matter that you had your own sniper, the way he would screen for his commando sniper made it next to impossible to combat it without lolrush (which dont exactly have a 100% success rate).

TBH it's a shame we can't store replays permanently other than recording them, some of the play ingame I've seen would be immensily useful for a large amount of players to see so they can see units correctly supported and used.

Possibly commando doctrine could need a detection and received supression buff for their recon sections so that their screening power would be ever bigger. But I'd seriously hate to fight that kind of build with Wehr, it was so powerful back in the day.

[Tymathee]

What if your opponent is PE and doesn't have a sniper, eh?

or LAT. focusfire would rape it.

thing is, snipers are only as good as their support. Ever seen a 5 sniper wehr build? whats the difference between that and commando sniper spam? if anything u could say that wehr sniper spam is more effective because it would have better support around it. mg42, paks, dual schrecks, dual lmgs, etc.

[Artekas]

tbh anyone who lets his commando sniper get hit by focus fire is a nub, 55 sight range >> focus fire range. Not to mention focus fire fail accuracy at long ranges vs moving targets. And commando sniper get out of jail free card.

[deadbolt]

This goes down to play, really. IPlay4keeps was a very strong commando sniper player. Didn't matter that you had your own sniper, the way he would screen for his commando sniper made it next to impossible to combat it without lolrush (which dont exactly have a 100% success rate).

TBH it's a shame we can't store replays permanently other than recording them, some of the play ingame I've seen would be immensily useful for a large amount of players to see so they can see units correctly supported and used.

Possibly commando doctrine could need a detection and received supression buff for their recon sections so that their screening power would be ever bigger. But I'd seriously hate to fight that kind of build with Wehr, it was so powerful back in the day.

<3

[Smokaz]

I still get a little moist when I think about that epic battle between your commando snipers and me and grens grenspam on RTC