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[brn4meplz]

Ohh then it was Crazy that did it. You, him and Elitegren were in a game the other day doing it. and because you all had gren names(Elite, Weak , Average) I just threw your name out there. Maybe it was Soi... ohh well fact is I smashed it easily without expecting it.

[Illegal_Carrot]

To Smokaz: You said that paying for an MG on a Croc as part of a T2 unlock was fine in my Armor Rework thread. Now you're saying it's not worth it, even as a free T1 selection. Why'd you change your mind?

[Smokaz]

Once you rise above the troglodyte level, you will get proper response. Saying that its impossible to run a balanced company is just lowbrow.

To Smokaz: You said that paying for an MG on a Croc as part of a T2 unlock was fine in my Armor Rework thread. Now you're saying it's not worth it, even as a free T1 selection. Why'd you change your mind?

Go read the thread again. It was more complicated than that, I wanted the upgrade with reduced penalites for using bulldozer as well.

As for canister show, honestly? Get in cover or a garrison, and its useless.

Sherman crocs are not a problem, you had a bad game but it doesnt mean crocs are suddendly awesomely OP.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Ohh then it was Crazy that did it. You, him and Elitegren were in a game the other day doing it. and because you all had gren names(Elite, Weak , Average) I just threw your name out there. Maybe it was Soi... ohh well fact is I smashed it easily without expecting it.

If your AT didn't instantly get artied to hell, the Allies were doing something wrong.

As for canister show, honestly? Get in cover or a garrison, and its useless.

Bull. I've had full health Gren squads all behind green cover get wiped by a single CS.

[Smokaz]

Its random, and decided by range but its not that good. It can happen that you got roflpwned behind cover but its not likely.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Its random, and decided by range but its not that good. It can happen that you got roflpwned behind cover but its not likely.

That's a problem though. The random aspect of it removes any sort of skill from the ability and turns it into another YOU DEAD LOL button. And no matter how 'random' it is, it should not completely wipe a full health, vet 2 (if it matters), Gren squad in green cover at max range.

Even if cover did have any sort of affect on it, it's not an ability that belongs in EiR oin the first place. You can't just retreat and reinforce like you can in vCoH, once that squad is gibbed (by an ability that only costs 85MU!), it's not coming back, and you've just lost all the resources that went into it, plus whatever vet was on the squad.

[Spartan_Marine88]

If your AT didn't instantly get artied to hell, the Allies were doing something wrong.

If your at wasn't clustered it wouldn't be a problem

[Illegal_Carrot]

If your at wasn't clustered it wouldn't be a problem

Because having an 88 decrewed or a PaK completely destroyed by a single Howi shot is so awesome.
And Calli barrages, creeping barrages, rocket/bombing runs, etc cover a large enough area that 'not clustering' isn't enough.

[3rdCondor]

My 2 cents:

I don't have a problem with spam. If players have the ability to spam extremely powerful units (airborne with free AW abilities like in the previous update), that's an issue. If spam MAKES a mediocre unit decently powerful, that's not an issue to me. Take an average rifleman, who doesn't do that much damage, and blob lots of them to increase performance (simple example just to make my point). I am not applying this to anyone or any build, I am just stating my feelings on spam.

[Lai]

Ohh then it was Crazy that did it. You, him and Elitegren were in a game the other day doing it. and because you all had gren names(Elite, Weak , Average) I just threw your name out there. Maybe it was Soi... ohh well fact is I smashed it easily without expecting it.

rofl. it's things like this that may entice me to play ^^

[Illegal_Carrot]

My 2 cents:

I don't have a problem with spam. If players have the ability to spam extremely powerful units (airborne with free AW abilities like in the previous update), that's an issue. If spam MAKES a mediocre unit decently powerful, that's not an issue to me. Take an average rifleman, who doesn't do that much damage, and blob lots of them to increase performance (simple example just to make my point). I am not applying this to anyone or any build, I am just stating my feelings on spam.

People have been spamming Rifles since the beginning, and I have no problem with that. And the counter to that has always been an HMG. And the counter to that HMG is smoke + grenades, a flank, etc. My problem is that, more and more, the counter becomes not some sort of combination of units or tactics, but a simple instant-win button that requires just one click.

It's stupid, unfair (often gimmicky) bullshit that's hardly fun to play with, let alone against.

[Heartmann]

We Should have an EiR Spam song play every time this gets on topic, lulz, I promise it be dropped real fast!

Jodo u sack of poo, u spammed that Fing horrible officer spam, you on my perma spam list of players i dont play vs.

And Ppl ITS JUST THAT EASY

I said it before I said it again, if u dont want to play spam then just put that name upp on a list and then avoid = VERY SIMPLE

To my reasoning the only reason for spam is 2 things:

1. Its funny to see a horde of the same units utterly crush other ppl.

2. To be the Evil bastered and Cackle manically at the computer screen!

Spammin shit only works if u get a game, if u dont let them play they will be forced to SUBMIT To the power of collective punishment!

Awwww the beauties of democracy!

[Illegal_Carrot]

With the amount of spam going on now, it'd be near impossible to get a game like that.

[nugnugx]

Games are fun.

The level of teamwork  depends alot on how a game is fun or not.


I'll give you an example of how it was before




2v2 , road to carentan



2 players setup on north -building-church side

2 players setup on south- empty-space


Both have support weapons , atgs , hmgs , mortars , snipers.

Players try to push fighting line by sniping other support weapons and trying to counter-snipe. Mortars see alot of action. Hmgs pin down inf and mortars finish them off.
Jeeps try to get the snipers but they are sniped by atgs.

Ofcourse this is viable today ^  but blobbing seems easier and does not require the micro of hmg-mortar-sniper- 1 inf squad combo.

Blobbing was also possible in those days, but was not as strong as it is today.

What could a blob of vanilla rifles do ?  and KCH were expensive , making all out blobs of them impossible.

Tommies with riflenades popping smoke + piat squads on the other hand...

[Heartmann]

With the amount of spam going on now, it'd be near impossible to get a game like that.

not true, i get games al the time!

And also that works both ways Carrot, why submit yourself to them?

[Illegal_Carrot]

And also that works both ways Carrot, why submit yourself to them?

Because I'd like to get a game without having to wait a ridiculous amount of time for one.

[Heartmann]

then DO SOMETHING ELSE!

Like read a book or do some house work, just logg on to vent create a game and hope ppl will pm when u get a game ^^

Its not that hard Carrot.

[EliteGren]

rofl. it's things like this that may entice me to play ^^

Hehe too bad its actually a load of shit because we were triple brits ^.^

[smurfORnot]

if u are bored,wanking usually helps...lol

[8thRifleRegiment]

Lol ^. but truth is, not that many games turn out fun in the end, sometimes they start out fun, but too often theres always something to spoil it. its hard to aviod the spammers or *gimmicks* becuase theres so many, and since its soo easy, more people are doing it ie. ranger+officer spam or Tommy smoke+Piats. alot of players who get beaten by this find themselfves asking "why did i lose, ive won about 6 straight games with that setup and tactics, what happend.. ohhh yea spam..." and then they start spamming also. its like a virus