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Author Topic: What do the Allies have that's better than the Axis?  (Read 59423 times)
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WildZontar Offline
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« on: December 05, 2010, 04:21:15 pm »

This is a serious question, I've only found a few things that seem like the Allies have the advantage on.

BARs Suppressive fire(Grenadiers LMGs get suppression don't they?)
Stickies (Better than Panzerfausts)
Pershing (Without Doctrine Axis get freaking Panzer 4s and Panther, Not to mention Tigers and the such)
ATG Armor Piercing rounds?

Can anyone add anymore, I'm just clawing my brain out trying to figure as to how Allies even have a chance in game sometimes, not to mention todays awesomerific Spam of anything and everything.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 04:24:26 pm »

M10/M18 > StuG
Firefly > Panther
Greyhound/T17/Staghound > Puma/Puma 50mm/Hotchkiss
Sherman Upgun > P4
US grenades > Axis grenades
Quad > Flammenwerfer HT

just a few things off the top of my head.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 04:33:27 pm »

stickie > faust
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 04:35:11 pm »

lol, u prefer to have a firefly instead of a panther myst?

allied healing + 6 man squads + fireup > any axis inf
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 04:39:37 pm »

lol, u prefer to have a firefly instead of a panther myst?

Assuming perfect micro, a panther should never ever defeat a firefly, thus the firefly is in it's essence a better unit(particularly at the designed task of killing tanks), while being cheaper.

The near-impossibility of achieving perfect micro across the entire community is a whole different matter, however.
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sheffer Offline
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 04:42:45 pm »

Wind's 1000xp FF, remember it? Smiley i didnt notice any axis unit on a table with 1000xp, but alot of tigers 600+xp
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 04:43:00 pm »

Most of the units are different, but when you play as axis there's nothing you're more jealous of than button and vet 2 stickies.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2010, 04:44:28 pm »

Wind's 1000xp FF, remember it? Smiley i didnt notice any axis unit on a table with 1000xp, but alot of tigers 600+xp

His wasn't the only one, nor was it the first one lol. Also, Pershing > Tiger.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2010, 04:46:26 pm »

I haven't been hit by a Sticky in forever. The recent trend of mass infantry and ATGs is more than annoying.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 04:46:29 pm »

I see Skaffa's Tiger on the table right now with 900+ xp, and he had another one at 700+ two days ago. So, fail? Besides that... vetwhoring does nothing to prove how good a unit is.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 04:48:46 pm »

I haven't been hit by a Sticky in forever. The recent trend of mass infantry and ATGs is more than annoying.

The thing is, its so deeply lodged into the axis player mind that button and stickies await him if he tries to gung ho with his inf hts, tanks and pumas and whatnot, that most of the time he doesn't even manage to think about it.

I'm always like "Sure, he's only got 1 atg" on paper, but yeah you cruise up there with your vet 3 p4 or whatever you take a reasonable calculated risk.. and then every rifle can have a sticky and all brens can button, suddendly out of nowhere you are dead.. and on the way home to repair a m10 shoots you in the ass.

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Pershing (Without Doctrine Axis get freaking Panzer 4s and Panther, Not to mention Tigers and the such)

Tiger is almost okay atm with the panzer aces T3, but Pershing can get much better buffs overall. Tigers in general lose me a lot of games because If I had some other fuel unit without tons of vet and requiring less support I might had been able to good with it.
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sheffer Offline
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2010, 06:19:21 pm »

I see ..blablabla.
im talking about last year, not last month.

Besides that... vetwhoring does nothing to prove how good a unit is.
It does.

P.S. and u talk too much dude.


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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2010, 06:21:04 pm »

Allied HT > Axis HT
RR > Schrek

And in general...

Allied Doctrine's > Axis Doctrine's for abilities, buffs, flavor.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2010, 06:54:45 pm »

His wasn't the only one, nor was it the first one lol. Also, Pershing > Tiger.

 It was 1400 xp, and to this day no one has actually proved having a firefly that came close to it.  Tongue

Their have been empty claims backed up by "I swear!', but nothing more hehe.

 -Wind
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2010, 06:57:17 pm »

Whatever wind, I know you just like being self-important Smiley.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2010, 06:58:46 pm »

Whatever wind, I know you just like being self-important Smiley.

 The only difference between you and I is that you just try to be, and I actually am.  Tongue

 Those who can't do, envy.  Grin

-Wind

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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 07:01:07 pm »

Uhh, and WHY exactly would I be trying to be interesting to none other but myself?

You have interesting misconceptions about the world, Wind.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 07:01:14 pm »

envy is a sin
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TheWindCriesMary Offline
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2010, 07:24:39 pm »

Uhh, and WHY exactly would I be trying to be interesting to none other but myself?

You have interesting misconceptions about the world, Wind.

 The answer is: vanity.

 Any human being with the tiniest shred of self-awareness knows vanity is something everyone possesses to some degree.

 Though I am amused that you tried to plead ignorance of it hehe.

 You are a delightfully, if unconvincingly, naiive little lamb.  Tongue

 -Wind
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2010, 07:56:02 pm »

This is a game forum, not a philosophy forum

Also not a "Why I am the best" forum
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