Luft: Scout Training

[Guest]

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever

Login with username, password and session length

[spinn72]

Hey guys,

Really sorry to post this as I KNOW there are websites that I can find out about this, and more recently, there's been a thread posted with links to these types of sites that I can't find, but oh well..

I was just wondering what the difference between Soldier armour and Airborne armour is as i'm considering running this t3 with the middle luft t3 which grants covering fire and +1 to certain weapons. My luft company is heavy on falls (probably 12 squads worth) and i'm aiming to run an effective long range type of gameplay, using LATHT's, mortars and falls with G43's for slow/covering fire to stop allied blobs.

That being said, I'd like to know if airborne armour would compliment falls better against allied handheld weapons more from a distance than vs soldier armour. Thanks for taking the time to answer a noob question!

[Mysthalin]

AB armour is only useful on the offensive, whereas soldier armour will help you all the time. Seeing as you're using G43s - you're probably better off sticking to soldier armour.

[smurfORnot]

why would you have falls with g43 at first place?

[LeoPhone]

why would you have falls with g43 at first place?

coz falls use fail PE rifles by default?

[smurfORnot]

and u can give them fg42 and rifle nades 
if u want g43,u can simply use cheaper pgrens,it's not like ambush will help u with g43 all that much since u want to fire them at long range,and not at close...

[Tymathee]

well if you want to use ur falls defensively soldier armor, offensively, airborne armor

[Mysthalin]

and u can give them fg42 and rifle nades 
if u want g43,u can simply use cheaper pgrens,it's not like ambush will help u with g43 all that much since u want to fire them at long range,and not at close...

1.25 dmg 1.25 acc is useless on G43s, even at long range?

DID NOT KNOW.

[smurfORnot]

just saying,fg42 is much better on them....

[Mysthalin]

FG42 price - 120 mu.
G43 price - 60 mu.

Hurr durr.

[Spartan_Marine88]

FG42 price - 120 mu.
G43 price - 60 mu.

Hurr durr.

This is still EIRR, price doesn't always mean better

[Mysthalin]

If units fullfill the same role, in the same faction.. Then yeah, price means quite a bit .

[smurfORnot]

if g43 is so much better,then we can remove fg42 completely,because,why pay twice for something that is worse...

[nugnugx]

http://picly.us/coh/Zaxis/mgs/

http://picly.us/coh/Zaxis/rifles/

fg42 18 dps close
g43 8 dps close

They are priced ok (although in my personal balancing i would decrease price of g43 to 45 because you basicaly pay for slow button and the dps increase vs normal kar is not realy noticable ingame as it is on paper, and i'd price fg32 at 100 not 120 , it's worse than mp44 for 95mu on assault grens but as it comes on fsj platfrom 100 would be appropriate , 120 is a little too much)




and to others discussion ,  g43 is more of an assault weapon than normal kar on pgs.  Kar has 4 dps on close and g43 double of kar. Medium and long is nearly the same, so the dps suggests you should get in close with kar vs rifles tommies and long vs rangers.

[Mysthalin]

if g43 is so much better,then we can remove fg42 completely,because,why pay twice for something that is worse...

Igor, I like you, I honestly do.

But what you're writing on the forums is extremely retarded.

[smurfORnot]

lol,I know...but we have different opinions,I for some reason like fg42 on my falls,probably because it's a bit buffed with supression,and like to  ambush enemy when they come close...and g43 is long ranged weapon,and for some reason,I never did like it all that much,and didnt notice that it was all that better compared to normal kar,except for slow,for what I wont pay 60mun...

[Mysthalin]

Well that person is enjoying his G43s and is building a strategy around it, therefore he asked what T3 is better for him. It's his company - and if he prefers G43s he can use G43s.

Naturally FG42s are superior - but they cost more as well : and that prohibitive cost is the reason why somebody may want to use G43s instead.

[Spartan_Marine88]

lol,I know...but we have different opinions,I for some reason like fg42 on my falls,probably because it's a bit buffed with supression,and like to  ambush enemy when they come close...and g43 is long ranged weapon,and for some reason,I never did like it all that much,and didnt notice that it was all that better compared to normal kar,except for slow,for what I wont pay 60mun...

I like the fg42 ambush for one reason. Just the image of allies walking and suddenly 4 rambos just appear screaming and firing a blaze of bullets at them

[Illegal_Carrot]

If you want to run a long-range FJ army (good luck, Allies will overrun you with Rifle/Ranger spam), I'd suggest sticking with vanilla FJs. If you check out the DPS Calculator posted earlier, their default weapon (the Grenadier Kar98K) actually has a slightly better long-range DPS, and a similar medium-range DPS. The only benefit the G43 gives you is a higher short-range DPS and the Slow ability. Nice, but I wouldn't consider it worth 65Mu.

I'd also suggest taking some sort of other unit in your army to hold on massed Allied troops; no amount of Falls or ambush bonuses are going to keep away SMG Ranger blobs.

That being said, why was the Aerial Supply Crates nerfed from four G43s to two? YOu half the effectiveness of an unlock and keep the same price?

[smurfORnot]

excatly...when blob comes,g43's just dont pack not nearly enough punch to stop it...rangers or comandos,or even those shotgun engies etc. they will come to u,and when they do,you are dead...

[nugnugx]

think of g43 as  kar with 'slow'


slow and throw grenade.....and watch your unit die