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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2010, 04:46:04 pm »

now if falls had some cool nades and not anty building ones who no one uses  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2010, 04:46:32 pm »

You always got just 2 G43s with the upgrade? I have no clue why you ever assumed otherwise.

I also have no idea why you assume Falls have the Grenadier K98.

They're enjoying their puny little PE K98s.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2010, 04:48:04 pm »

now if falls had some cool nades and not anty building ones who no one uses  Roll Eyes

new fsj nade : incendiary bundle nade (on the idea of storm bundle nade)

3 incendiary nades packed into one.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2010, 04:53:33 pm »

and give it +1 use on vet 3...
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2010, 04:56:48 pm »

PE
-Falls now have Grenadier rifles.

And I remember getting more than two G43s previously. I thought they had changes it to 2x because Luft Inf could take them, as well.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2010, 04:59:52 pm »

Nope, never.

And do check the RGDs before quoting bob...
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2010, 05:17:00 pm »

Nope, never.

And do check the RGDs before quoting bob...

falls dont use grenadier rifles. they did lost their leader rifle though(leader rifle is more powerful at close range but less powerful at long range)
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2010, 05:21:16 pm »

You'd think that you could quote the lead coder with relative confidence...

Anyways, that means FJs are even more pathetic than I remember them as. Ugh.
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2010, 05:25:04 pm »

You'd think that you could quote the lead coder with relative confidence...

Anyways, that means FJs are even more pathetic than I remember them as. Ugh.

if i look at the rgds i see he had a plan to give the fsjs the grenadier rifle, but then he just stopped halfway and put it in the patchnotes anyway xD
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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2010, 05:27:00 pm »

if i look at the rgds i see he had a plan to give the fsjs the grenadier rifle, but then he just stopped halfway and put it in the patchnotes anyway xD
Great job!
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2010, 05:31:24 pm »

if i look at the rgds i see he had a plan to give the fsjs the grenadier rifle, but then he just stopped halfway and put it in the patchnotes anyway xD

lol i think this should go into the bugs thread tbh
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2010, 05:36:56 pm »

Not a bug, Gren K98 was put in for 2 patches, until Ambush was working, then it was removed making them Failshirmjager again.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2010, 05:37:41 pm »

What AmPm said.
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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2010, 05:40:26 pm »

TBH, outside of Ambushing FJ are worthless crap compared to regular PE units.

They really should get their Gren K98's back for the price premium you pay for them.
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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2010, 05:42:58 pm »

Waaait. 10 MP more for grenadiers that have more than twice as much effective health against BARs and brens, can paradrop and cloak in cover for massive ambush bonuses? lolwut?
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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2010, 05:49:29 pm »

Don't forget 50% more pool, lack of medkits or grenades or schreks as standard upgrades that allow you to be flexible.

They have lower base health but have soldier armor, Soldier armor is only what, .75 damage on BAR/Bren.

Lets ask how they do vs flames too, or explosions.

Paradrop is worthless. Has been in EIR for a long time.

Massive Ambush bonuses? Eh, you mean like +25% accuracy and damage, sure, its good, but not massive, and combined with shit doctrine choices means they come out on the losing end vs anything without investing heavily into munitions.
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2010, 05:56:04 pm »

Soldier armour is actually .4 damage vs bren and BAR.
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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2010, 06:05:58 pm »

Paradrop is worthless. Has been in EIR for a long time.

Ahahahahah. Paradrop is a flexible option that has saved/won a game for my team on many, many different occasions.

sure its a bit of a risk, but running off a hummel with paradropped ab is worth it.

when it comes to falls, i always keep a squad or two to drop in kill and steal a howie and use it against the enemies.

sure people generally hear the plane but since there is no actuall plane, unless you drop right onto the enemy, your in the clear. Then your free to set up behind enemy lines, wait till you see your target, or just rape support weapons when your team attacks.
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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2010, 06:11:01 pm »

Paradrop doesn't mean balls on FJs unless it's a single suicide squad. FJs don't have the versatility of AB to drop behind enemy lines and expect to survive to do anything useful.
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2010, 06:14:35 pm »

Wait, so Spartan, your goal with FJ is to decrew a howi, then get maybe 1 barrage off, have your men killed by an M8/M3, have the enemy recrew said howi, and then fire their free barrage?

The only time its good to attack a Howi is if its a high vet crew, or you can destroy the gun.

AB have Fireup, it makes all the difference.
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