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Tymathee Offline
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« on: December 29, 2010, 01:28:54 pm »

I think it's overprice. at 320 mp and 125 fu, it's price to operate more on its own and higher than an m8 but for killing infantry, i'd rather go with an m8 than with a 75mm gmc, especially since the accuracy is so bad. It's really only good at killing infantry inside houses, other wise forget it.  (acc is .25, .50, 1.0) its like the LeIG without the splash damage.

i dont mind the MP tbh but i think the fuel should be lowered to at least 60 or 70.

hmm, maybe 80 because of its range but still. alone they kinda blow, even with two i couldn't hit anything unless it stood still for a while or sat in a building. it looks like its priced to be a mobile howie replacement but meh.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 02:06:41 pm »

Quad is way better for Inf killing rathen than that piece of sh**
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 04:10:38 pm »

I just used two together last game.

They worked very well, i was rather impressed.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 04:47:39 pm »

They die sooo easily.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 04:49:14 pm »

Scout? They are halftracks afterall. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 04:59:29 pm »

They're very fragile and suffer from HT driving syndrome (goes forward, make 3 point turn to back up), they have really high fuel req.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 05:53:47 pm »

Scout? They are halftracks afterall. Smiley

i just ask the fuel requirement to be lowered. its a lot
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 06:49:02 pm »

instead of the fuel requirement being lowered, the gun should be looked at. These things shouldnt be spammed like StuHs are because it's pop is so low, and it fills a nice support niche.

When you put 2 togather at the same time, with alittle micro, they are good. It's a very micro dependant unit. Considering it's potential power, i see no reason to reduce cost on the basis of it's durability.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 12:56:35 am »

omfg these thing are so good just alone got 20 kills with one all by itself you have bar rilfes or hmg suppressing along with good support they go along way
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 03:27:09 am »

Weak platform? Low health? Bad pathing?

Sounds like the entire PE faction.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 02:41:20 pm »

there is no fail pathing with it you just suck at using it
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2011, 02:47:35 pm »

this thing is amazing at clearing out buldings,
took out 3out of 4 units in 1 shot when i was playing with groundfire.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2011, 04:14:53 pm »

well i be mad too if you have to face gay stuipd stuff all the time
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2011, 04:19:23 pm »

Actually, Carrot was making fun of Lionel's whine about HT pathing and fragility earlier in the post.

Learn 2 post =p

Wasn't talking about just this post, was talking about everything Carrot says these days.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2011, 04:38:17 pm »

well yeah but it happend when all the bs happend
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2011, 07:12:37 pm »

only thing i want is the thing to have lower fuel cost because they die so easy, have horrible pathing cuz it's a half track, are wildly inaccurate and uh, they just suck imo. I'd rather play with a jumbo.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2011, 07:15:12 pm »

tym its like an allied LeIG
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2011, 08:26:19 pm »

dude you use them at range and dont charge them into stuff you let it hang low where at cant get ya but a the same time blow up infy that try to charge at ya
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2011, 09:54:14 pm »

tym its like an allied LeIG

i know that but the leig can take more than just 2 pak hits, which btw has longer range than the 75mm gmc and a larger splash and because the leig uses weapon crew armor, at guns only have i think 15% acc vs them so that makes it hard so at guns can hit the leig, also tanks can't really hit it cuz the leig has 100% penetration vs pretty much all armor types and 100% dmg while the 75mm has damage nerfs vs anything that isn't infantry and the leig does more damage, for some reason even though they use the damage diameter of shell (75mm).

so either one needs to be nerfed or the other brought in line somehow with the other.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2011, 11:07:23 pm »

No, it's fine.
The Le.IG has the same armor as a PaK, meaning it dies in just two shots from a 57mm or 6 Lbr.
The Le.IG is shit vs vehicles, though either way that's totally unrelated to the survivability and/or effectiveness of the M3 GMC, anyways.
The Le.IG may have better range/AoE than the M3 GMC (I don't know the actual stats on this, but I'm taking your word for it), but that's also because it carries the many downsides of being a man-packed, crew-based weapon.

Let's compare some similar units:
M3 75mm GMC - 320MP, 125FU, 6 Pop, 6 Pool
Le.IG - 380MP, 120MU, 6 Pop, 6 Pool
95mm Cromwell - 380MP, 200FU, 10 Pop, 9 Pool

The Le.IG is about on-par with the M3 in terms of both price and effectiveness, and both are fairly priced relative to the 95mm Cromwell (ie more Fuel = more survivability).

I've seen the M3 used to great effectiveness, and have no doubt about its power.
Everything you've said is exactly what PE players have been saying for years, so 'suck it up and learn to play' is unfortunately the best advice anyone can give on the matter.
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