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[RoyalHants]

i see you're so bright.. and let's take into consideration the instance when the sniper shoots the spotter, i wonder who'll be doing the countersniping then..

the tell your sniper to shoot the guy with the rifle Mystahlin and cloud did it to 5 of my snipers

[smurfORnot]

and what if you are PE and dont have sniper,lol

[Katusha]

WHAT A COUNTER!! i never thought of that 

yeah please next time when you snipe something, stay still for 10 seconds so i can zoom in, check who has the rifle, and right click him

[RoyalHants]

and what if you are PE and dont have sniper,lol

halthtrack with AS grens or LATHT
honestly there worth it but there not OP

[Illegal_Carrot]

WHAT thats its main counter and if your good a microing you will get your sniper to counter snipe the guy with the rifle
pleas elaborate on how it cant be counter sniped

If you shoot the guy with the Sten then the other instantly counter-snipes you. He still has a sniper on the field.
If you shoot the sniper, there's still the spotter, which can still be used for scouting.
In either case, you still have one man left, which you can either keep on the field, or retreat to retain vet, which is not an option afforded to any other sniper.
Any sniper can be counter-sniped, not just he Commando. If you use them properly, the Commando is hardly more likely to get sniped than any other sniper. Their extra sight/range keeps them much safer, and with their Soldier armor, other snipers won't prioritize them. Heck, you can even pop smoke if you fear an imminent counter-snipe incoming.

[EliteGren]

stay still for 10 seconds so i can zoom in, check who has the rifle, and right click him

10 seconds to zoom in? It takes 1 second, 2 at most. Honestly that's what I've always been doing to take out commando snipers. If you are unable to pull this off then you are simply bad IMHO.

[cloud234]

the tell your sniper to shoot the guy with the rifle Mystahlin and cloud did it to 5 of my snipers

That is actually because you don't know how to use the commando sniper... You should watch deadbolt/elitegren/oneOfThem use commando sniper. Although he uses it conservatively, it was still very effective. Inf + ATG spam with Mando sniper cannot be beaten except by offmaps and arty, which the axis doesn't have a lot of and a good player can easily evade arty and offmaps most of the time anyway.

PS: Thats my personal opinion on the beating inf + atg spam w/ mando sniper part.

[RoyalHants]

so why would i want a sniper with no cloak no sight range more than normal for the same price ?

[cloud234]

so why would i want a sniper with no cloaj no sight range more than normal for the same price ?

Because real men play without cloak.

No seriously.

If you want your sniper to earn back its value asap, you use it uncloaked to rack up kills asap. You only use cloak for counter snipe and secret spotting (which a bike is better at...)

There is very little reason to use cloak unless there are very special circumstances.

EDIT:

Just re-read ur question... Because 2 man sniper teams can survive better with good vet and smoke is better than cloak sometimes.

Also, a mando sniper helps the british very very well against its weaknesses against support weapons from wehr. It is a damn good addition.

i.e. Cloak while running, decloak to run faster, cloak before they can burst at u, decloak again to run etc.

[Katusha]

10 seconds to zoom in? It takes 1 second, 2 at most. Honestly that's what I've always been doing to take out commando snipers. If you are unable to pull this off then you are simply bad IMHO.

i admit i overexaggerated with 10 seconds, but you make it seem too easy, 2 seconds? really? if the sniper's moving you have to get lucky to click the actual guy and not the ground, giving your sniper a move order

maybe if i forget about every other unit, and everything else, i can pull it off in 3 seconds, but at a cost of losing other units

[Scotzmen]

Oh yes, and commando Lee Enfields Need sme sort off buff. Right now they arnt any good against infantry when equipped with paits. I mean sure there survivabiliy is brilliant and handy, but infantry is still a problem to them. Obviosly you will have to find a nice balance so people dont start picking the LEE's over stens, becuase of the awesome power it may recieve

[RoyalHants]

Why so much hate for the mando sniper its balanced for a t3

sooner or later were going to need a new thread

[Katusha]

Why so much hate for the mando sniper its balanced for a t3

Falls medkits = t3, doesnt mean shit they got nerfed in under 24 hours

although i think they were reverted by accident again to terminator mode

[RoyalHants]

Falls medkits = t3, doesnt mean shit they got nerfed in under 24 hours

although i think they were reverted by accident again to terminator mode

they were broken bob enterd the number wrong or something

[Illegal_Carrot]

+1 to everything cloud has said. That man knows his stuff.

Oh yes, and commando Lee Enfields Need sme sort off buff.

Ehh, something really small, if anything. Seeing as they're free, I'd refrain from making them an actual battle rifle.
If you want to use Commandos without Stens or PIATs, give them grenades or even demos. Smoke + grenade is a surprisingly effective combo.

[Scotzmen]

Ehh, something really small, if anything. Seeing as they're free, I'd refrain from making them an actual battle rifle.
If you want to use Commandos without Stens or PIATs, give them grenades or even demos. Smoke + grenade is a surprisingly effective combo.

Of course, right now there just meh, im sure rangers do better with garands right now.

[Demon767]

lee enfiled is the worse rilfe in the game. i told you guys giving mando lee enfields would be a waste of time, but noooo everyone waned lee enfields. 2 days after whole bunch of QQ

[Demon767]

Btw, if you buffed the lee enfield, you would have to either

1. Nerf the Bren
2. Only give 1 Bren to tommies instead of 2

[Scotzmen]

Btw, if you buffed the lee enfield, you would have to either

1. Nerf the Bren
2. Only give 1 Bren to tommies instead of 2

1. i would accept this if the enfields actually sat alongside other rifles and not be the worst, like the kar or g43 ETC.

2. If you gave them one 1 instead of 2 it would need a price reduction, as your getting 1 isntead of 2 and enfields if they arnt buffed anough, will create some problems. Personally i never pick brens. Riflenades are of more use to me.

[Demon767]

.. It would have to be a m1 garand varient.. with 80Mu...

Giving them kars + bren would just rip Grenadiers with lmgs in the face.

do you see how much balance problems this will cause. forget about buffing the lee enfields