[PE] Ketten & Scout car

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[LeoPhone]

Can't the sight of these units be buffed so they can actually be used as scouting units?

currently they all have 35 sight. bikes and jeeps have 55.

[Tymathee]

Can't the sight of these units be buffed so they can actually be used as scouting units?

currently they all have 35 sight. bikes and jeeps have 55.

why?  you have the Schwimmwagen , it has 55 sight.
the ketten has a great detection radius for stealth units, i think larger than anything else

http://picly.us/coh/Vehicle_Kettenkrad.html

Yup. 30/10 awesome unit to find anything cloaked.

the scout car can cap territory without any doc abilities and its gun is VERY good vs snipers.

[PonySlaystation]

Also kettenkrad can camouflage, not sure which doctrine ability.

[bayarea510]

Also kettenkrad can camouflage, not sure which doctrine ability.

Luft

[smurfORnot]

it would be handy if ketten had some kind of bike evasion,because every shot hits him,and usually kills him...

[BigDick]

the ketten should indeed get a bigger sight radius i'm only using it for special tasks like cloak or firecracker mines but that unit should be more useful on its own

-> increase sight (but not while cloaked these are already very useful kettens)

scoutcar can backcap and fight and is able to decrew at guns for a very small pop no need for more sight there

[Tymathee]

it gets a +5 in luft, which on top of the cloak makes it the best scouting unit in the game. Ask the players with like 4-6 in their company. It's very annoying to be getting hit by things and think you can't be seen but they see you quite clearly.

but that 30 range detection means pretty much, if its within its sight radius, its going to reveal you, thats the consolation it gets for having a normal sight range.

[VERTIGGO]

NERF kettenkrad! it's the most OP unit in the game. lol

If it had a normal scout sight range, but cloaking reduced it, that would work though... I'm just saying it makes sense, I don't have any.

[BigDick]

thats just tym man one of the most annoying persons in eir community crying OP OP all axis got never reading a thread just crying OP OP but when he is playing axis he get his ass handed all the time

never talked about increased sight while cloaked
cloaked kettens are very useful

we talk about ketten without being cloaked and how would that being OP having +10 more sight than infantry? like jeeps and bikes?

lol

[AmPM]

it gets a +5 in luft, which on top of the cloak makes it the best scouting unit in the game. Ask the players with like 4-6 in their company. It's very annoying to be getting hit by things and think you can't be seen but they see you quite clearly.

but that 30 range detection means pretty much, if its within its sight radius, its going to reveal you, thats the consolation it gets for having a normal sight range.

Because you have oh so many cloaked units??

[Tymathee]

thats just tym man one of the most annoying persons in eir community crying OP OP all axis got never reading a thread just crying OP OP but when he is playing axis he get his ass handed all the time

never talked about increased sight while cloaked
cloaked kettens are very useful

we talk about ketten without being cloaked and how would that being OP having +10 more sight than infantry? like jeeps and bikes?

lol

im sorry but you're one of the most annoying cuz you took something i did not say and put your own spin on it. I never said it was OP i think it's a very good ability and I said its the best because it is! You dont see that many jeeps or bikes or wagens in companies do you? No, you dont be you will see companies with 4-6 kettens on luft.

Because you have oh so many cloaked units??

snipers can wreck having against axis cuz of lower pop units, 6 pdr, you can reveal it and if ur cloaked without being seen and can take it out. M-18s, ambushing sapper/commando piats.

[smurfORnot]

why would you wanna 6 kettens 
yes they are good,but 2-3 are enough...

[Illegal_Carrot]

Cloaked Kettens are indeed some of the best scouts in the mod, no doubt in my mind about that.
But out of cloak, they should get +5 sight and Bike armor, IMO. Luft gets it good with Cloak, but in SE they're only useful for mine spam, and TH has no use for them.

[AmPM]

im sorry but you're one of the most annoying cuz you took something i did not say and put your own spin on it. I never said it was OP i think it's a very good ability and I said its the best because it is! You dont see that many jeeps or bikes or wagens in companies do you? No, you dont be you will see companies with 4-6 kettens on luft.

snipers can wreck having against axis cuz of lower pop units, 6 pdr, you can reveal it and if ur cloaked without being seen and can take it out. M-18s, ambushing sapper/commando piats.

Vampire does the same thing, with longer range, for 2 pop.

[Tymathee]

Cloaked Kettens are indeed some of the best scouts in the mod, no doubt in my mind about that.
But out of cloak, they should get +5 sight and Bike armor, IMO. Luft gets it good with Cloak, but in SE they're only useful for mine spam, and TH has no use for them.

in vcoh, don't they detect mines and repair? so since the repair is taken out yeah kinda makes them useless..but wait, do they cap in EIR? i know they do in vcoh.

[PonySlaystation]

Not useless, very good scouts. No they can't cap.

[COHCommando]

ok if you use this unit like panda you will see and have a total different opinion

[smurfORnot]

Cloaked Kettens are indeed some of the best scouts in the mod, no doubt in my mind about that.
But out of cloak, they should get +5 sight and Bike armor, IMO. Luft gets it good with Cloak, but in SE they're only useful for mine spam, and TH has no use for them.

actually tank hunter has good use for them,since they can salvage wrecks and lay down mines
and that is middle T1,so they become very good

but a bike armor would be nice,since regular one,costs around the same as bike,but is shit compared to one...

[PonySlaystation]

For 1 pop, It doesn't really matter. It's not a combat unit.

[smurfORnot]

regular one is not a combat,but it's also not a scout...so what is it?