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« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2011, 09:55:54 am »

I would actually like to thank the devs for nerfing pe. I was thinking about starting a pe company because it's the one faction that I haven't really given a chance, but you guys helped me realize that I have no incentive to play as PE now. Thank you for making it easier on me..


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« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2011, 10:02:53 am »

I would actually like to thank the devs for nerfing pe. I was thinking about starting a pe company because it's the one faction that I haven't really given a chance, but you guys helped me realize that I have no incentive to play as PE now. Thank you for making it easier on me..


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« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2011, 10:05:04 am »

I would actually like to thank the devs for nerfing pe. I was thinking about starting a pe company because it's the one faction that I haven't really given a chance, but you guys helped me realize that I have no incentive to play as PE now. Thank you for making it easier on me..


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« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2011, 10:08:42 am »

It has always been.
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« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2011, 10:14:09 am »

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at 35 mun one could consider to get some fausts on recrew volks just in case to scare away some vehicles if he does not get them off it doesnt matter that much
They were 30 Mun, get your facts straight.

we considered making them 1 use at 25 Mun but having just one faust use would have caused an uprising just as well. The solution really is getting rid of the oversupply on availability and implementing the weapons cache. But until then, this will do as a stopgap. All this drama, which occurs after every balance patch regardless, is just a waste of time you could have spent playing and finding out it's not all that bad.

As for PE, when are you people going to get away from this ludicrous idea that PE were mainly nerfed? It's nonsense, the armour and health changes were mainly a buff. You don't see anyone crying about grenadiers getting 'dominated' by BARs or .30s either. Those are the only weapons they are 'worse' against in relation to their previous state, against everything else they are considerably better.
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« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2011, 10:19:24 am »

ive been trying to tell them that unknown, they just wont listen. i think they want wehrmact grens changed to soldier armor too
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« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2011, 10:21:25 am »

ive been trying to tell them that unknown, they just wont listen. i think they want wehrmact grens changed to soldier armor too

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« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2011, 10:21:56 am »

Its too late!!!11!
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« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2011, 10:22:36 am »

I'll never understand anything anymore.
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« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2011, 10:27:57 am »

I'll never understand anything anymore.

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« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2011, 10:28:42 am »

Its too late!!!11!

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« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2011, 10:28:49 am »

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« Reply #132 on: February 05, 2011, 10:34:02 am »

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« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2011, 10:35:14 am »

Stop spamming
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« Reply #134 on: February 05, 2011, 10:41:31 am »

we considered making them 1 use at 25 Mun but having just one faust use would have caused an uprising just as well. The solution really is getting rid of the oversupply on availability and implementing the weapons cache. But until then, this will do as a stopgap. All this drama, which occurs after every balance patch regardless, is just a waste of time you could have spent playing and finding out it's not all that bad.

We did play it, only to find out it was even worse than we could possibly imagine. Congratz, you just broke EIR.

Yes it was unbalanced before but 50 ammo is too much, that's pretty much twice as much than before. It would make a lot more sense if you just split the cost in to number of uses. People were complaining that the faust cooldown was too short so that a player could easily fire 3-4 fausts for just 30 ammo. Yes this is wrong but 50 ammo is still too much. Nobody will ever use a faust again. They will never be worthwhile.

And why was the PzGren change needed?
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« Reply #135 on: February 05, 2011, 10:47:57 am »

so next time people complain about something,we can expect price of that to go 80% up...ok,start complaining!
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« Reply #136 on: February 05, 2011, 11:00:41 am »

Yes it was unbalanced before but 50 ammo is too much, that's pretty much twice as much than before. It would make a lot more sense if you just split the cost in to number of uses. People were complaining that the faust cooldown was too short so that a player could easily fire 3-4 fausts for just 30 ammo. Yes this is wrong but 50 ammo is still too much. Nobody will ever use a faust again. They will never be worthwhile.

to make an upgrade more cheap but less uses will make them more spamable
the real solution as i said is keep high price even raise it to 60 mun but change its role as vehicle cripplers like stickies

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And why was the PzGren change needed?

imho it was needed only for the tankbusters because these where a very bad 120 mun investment and should stay alive against armor now longer

the thing that wasn't needed is to price them like grens and to change armor of basic pgrens

that make basic pgrens to grens with very shit rifles
and additional there could be some weired leftovers of crit tables (did not checked it yet)
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« Reply #137 on: February 05, 2011, 11:06:14 am »

It's not cheaper. Before it was: 30/3=10 for each faust

10 ammo for 1 faust

It should be something like this

30 ammo for 1 faust
45 ammo for 2 faust
50 ammo for 3 faust

Right now it's 50 ammo for just 2 fausts. That's basically a sticky and stickies are way better. So yeah if you keep the cost you need to buff the fausts somehow.
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« Reply #138 on: February 05, 2011, 11:08:31 am »

Proves how good some people are at reading patch notes it seems, before they were 2 uses, not 3.
And now they are 3 uses, not 2.
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« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2011, 11:11:01 am »

Doesn't matter, you never get to fire 3 fausts. You can fire 1 off easily because of different vehicle starts and you can maybe get to fire 2 if your lucky but 3 that never happens.
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