LeoPhone
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« on: March 14, 2011, 08:16:50 am » |
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mando demos should have their sight removed.
you might compare them with goliaths and say they cant be moved but goliaths are more expensive and cant be spammed like demos since they come on pioneers instead on mainline elite infantry.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 08:38:42 am » |
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i think there is also a bug with demos coz when the building collapses the demo doesn't blow up.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 10:33:06 am » |
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Im pretty sure my SE Panzer Pioneer's demos dont get sight.
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two words atgs and fireflies
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Groundfire
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 10:41:10 am » |
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Commando demos dont get sight either. I just used them yesterday.
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DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 10:49:09 am » |
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Hmm. Were you using bottem T2 making them have larger explosion radius? Im pretty sure my commando demos had 3 sight when I used them back when I was wanting to prove that they were OP when it was later seen that they infact were broken by that T2 and they agained like 2x the damage.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 11:17:24 am » |
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they get 10 sight
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puddin
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 04:39:12 pm » |
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NO SIGHT
I use them, No sight, And if they are not placed in a house, people are able to see them and they can be shot at, If i place them in cover they should be invisible but detected like Goliaths.... At least Goliaths can move...
Currently they are useless out in the open as they don;t do any dmg to vehicles even if they drive right over it.
They cost 60 Munitions, and while a teir 4 gives an extra one.... Here is what you have on one squad....
Commandos = 310MP Piats= 130 Mu or Assult = 135MU Nades = 35 So those combined are 165 or 170 MU already, Sink the demos and its Demos = 60 MU (For a non movable explosion that is seen by all. Total 225 or 230 MU on 1 squad...
It takes a Teir 2 and A teir 4 to buff them
So it takes a lot to make them effective... PLus sappers get a Demo and a Mine for a total of 70 MU, thats actually cheaper, because the mine.
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Puddin' spamtmi cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.
Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 04:40:59 pm » |
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bullshit puddin, I had stormtroopers walking over a demo with no enemy units in sight and the demo was set off by the enemy. because the demo had sight. I even looked it up in the rgds. 10 sight.
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panzerman
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 07:02:55 pm » |
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hmm kk i am gonna watch the replay that is the cause of why leo was raging... see if they did...didn't look like it though units would pop up next to the gliders.
edit: they did not give off any sight... and the units didn't eveen need to be close to reveal them...
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« Last Edit: March 14, 2011, 07:21:11 pm by panzerman »
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puddin
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 07:33:16 pm » |
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If your storms walked over it, THey could have shot it.
Here leo.. If your certain, I will post My Credit card info to you in a PM and let you max its 3,000 USD limit out IF it has sight, So make a Commando COmpany, PLace demos and walk away if they have sight i will give you a 3,000 dollar shopping spree.
Nowgo test it before you open your mouth again, and if your wrong, , or rather when yourr wrong i want an apology for you being ignorant and lazy
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Tymathee
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 09:07:29 pm » |
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they dont give sight...i saw someone put out 3 of them and there was no sight, i placed one, no sight.
maybe leo...if he was commandos, he had radio triangulation?
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"I want proof!" "I have proof!" "Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2011, 01:54:41 am » |
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well it's all really suspicious. and the infantry didnt shoot the demos themselves because the 2 man squad was holding 2 schrecks and moving.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2011, 02:33:32 am » |
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well it's all really suspicious. and the infantry didnt shoot the demos themselves because the 2 man squad was holding 2 schrecks and moving.
Leo, stop getting mad whenever someone outsmarts you
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Yes that's me, the special snowflake.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 03:04:30 am » |
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screw you spartan, spamming gimmick companies is not outsmarting. it is being a fag.
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2011, 04:08:30 am » |
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Agreeing with Spartan here. You got outsmarted
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 05:54:03 am » |
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A gimmick is a strategy that works only under very precise certain circumstances and not more than once against any one specific player. And even then there is absolutely nothing wrong with a gimmick in it's essence - it's a kind of strategy the opposition is not prepared for. One can not be held accountable for the lack of foresight on the opposing team.
So take your losses more lightly, and stop trying to play the moral high horse. The reason you lost is because you got outplayed : whether it was on the battlefield in terms of micro, or in the company building screen in terms of macro - they are BOTH equally valid parts of the game, and should be rewarded by victory.
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Demon767
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 06:17:04 am » |
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+1 to outsmarted
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nugnugx
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 07:12:57 am » |
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There is a red circle on mini map when demo charge is under attack, usualy then its time to tick it off because there is a chance some unit is on top of it or close by.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2011, 07:21:06 am » |
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not outsmarted at all. In fact I was outsmarting them.
stormschrecks move closer to FF, tiger waits on road, schrecks both hit, tiger moves in and kills FF in 2 hits. back off instantly with almost full hp tiger over road (got hit 1/2 times by FF) and stormschrecks.
but then a demo almost completely kills the tiger and another firefly finishes it off.
bullshit. I won that fight but then lose a healthy tiger while retreating over a road coz of allied BS. probably would have still won the game but just didn't care enough.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 07:26:32 am » |
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That tiger had half hp when you were escaping on road and demo brought it to 1/3 and FF last shotted it.
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