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« on: March 18, 2011, 09:34:05 am »

Imo Tiger front armor could be better,  because it gets even penetrated by boys at rifle and zooks.  Maybe give the Tigers front armor the armor of panther which is better.

A heavy tank should not get penetrated from front by light AT weapons. A panzerschreck which is much deadlier has problems penetrating pershing from front.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 09:35:11 am »

You be trolling right?

Tigers are penetrated by everything, doesnt mean their armour needs to be better though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 09:36:24 am »

i killed your panther from the rear not one shot from the front did damage nubnubx
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 09:36:59 am »


Tigers are penetrated by everything, doesnt mean their armour needs to be better though.

What is your logic behind this ?

Why panther which is a lighter tank should not get penetrated from front by light at weapons and tiger which is heavier should ?




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i killed your panther from the rear not one shot from the front did damage nubnubx

i had no panthers in our last game, your post is spam.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 09:37:22 am »

dice rolls
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 09:38:46 am »

dice rolls

obviously you have no idea what you are talking about .
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 09:40:19 am »

i know enough from facing tigers every day that there frontal armour is reasonable not impossible to penetrate but hard to
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 09:41:55 am »

i know enough from facing tigers every day that there frontal armour is reasonable not impossible to penetrate but hard to

and panther which is a lighter tank has better frontal armor, tiger should have atleast the same front armor.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 09:42:07 am »

Just looked it up, bazooka got 17.5% chance to pen tiger from front, but if it does it does 50% more damage.

Panzershrek got 45% chance to pen persh from front but does no extra damage.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2011, 09:42:42 am »

Tigers get penetraited by Atguns from front.

BUFF!!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 09:42:54 am »

And Panthers penetration is?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 09:43:04 am »

Just looked it up, bazooka got 17.5% chance to pen tiger from front, but if it does it does 50% more damage.

Panzershrek got 45% chance to pen persh from front but does no extra damage.

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 09:46:13 am »

http://picly.us/coh/Weapon_Contents.html

For most weapons panther is better armour, but pershing gun vs tiger/panther Tiger is the better pick.

Edit: If you want new weapons added by the mod use corsix.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 09:48:50 am »

i wonder do we have this 50% extra zooka damage buff in.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 09:51:18 am »

Im going to throw the "realism" wrench into the cogs on this one.

Like it or not, penetration stats in this game are based off generally real statistics.
Because of the Panther's sloping frontal armor, it was generally deemed to have better armor than the tiger. (even if, i believe, the tiger armor is still thicker)

This relationship is present in CoH to reflect the RL nature of the units. Panthers just got penetrated less.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 09:54:07 am »

Alot of things you people dont know, is that your Low tier VCoh weapons get buffs. Piats get DMG buffs against most axis tanks, Bazooka gets some buffs, Marder gets buffs against the top tier Pershing, M10's get dmg/acc buffs against tiger and what not.

Some other things dont really make sence to me though, like the jagdpanther doing less damage vs churchhills
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 09:55:50 am »


Some other things dont really make sence to me though, like the jagdpanther doing less damage vs churchhills

Churchill cant fight back. It's a balance thing. The jadgpanther will already win that fight 10/10, it doesnt need to kill the tank any faster.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 09:56:43 am »

Hey would you mind telling me if there is an diffrence between the Pen of the Upgunned sherman Vs hetzers and The MKIV Vs Hetzers for i am quite sure that the Churchill is penetrating my Hetzers like crazy at long range even more than shermans uppgunned.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 09:58:10 am »

Im going to throw the "realism" wrench into the cogs on this one.

Like it or not, penetration stats in this game are based off generally real statistics.
Because of the Panther's sloping frontal armor, it was generally deemed to have better armor than the tiger. (even if, i believe, the tiger armor is still thicker)

This relationship is present in CoH to reflect the RL nature of the units. Panthers just got penetrated less.

Groundfire , but its our gameplay,,, not realism ,  doesn't make sense for gameplay that higher tier tank has weaker armor.

Atleast the front.

As for 'realism' you can always say that our tigers are field modifications which have additional milimiteres of metal at front  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 10:03:00 am »

Hey would you mind telling me if there is an diffrence between the Pen of the Upgunned sherman Vs hetzers and The MKIV Vs Hetzers for i am quite sure that the Churchill is penetrating my Hetzers like crazy at long range even more than shermans uppgunned.

Well if I remember correctly the upgun is pretty huge, like freaking 60% modifer against the 2nd best armour in the game(hetzer sortof)

The church 4 has like 28% against hetzer, the chuch 6 is a sherman nonupgun 75
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Chances tiger armour going to be improved is very slim. Pershing overall is a bit worse, are they going to get buffed to?

just let it go nugnugx
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