[PE] Pz Gren Sprint

Tymathee Offline

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« on: April 02, 2011, 02:46:11 pm »

After seeing this in action a few times i have to say, a +25% rcv suppression + the added speed is too much.

I've seen them run through hmgs, quads, even rifle suppression and do whatever they want.

When you add in Mag AT nades, its very hard for a retreating tank to get away.

I thought part of the reason ab riflemen are gone was fireup + stickies.

Well, mag AT nades have higher range than stickies (21 vs 17) so it's tougher to get away.

So, if you really want to keep PE sprint in as a vet 0 purchasable, take away the received suppression, or at least not let it be so high, 10%, 15% ok, but 25% is too high. If they were Elite Infantry, I'd be cool with it, falls, maybe even flammen grens but on basic infantry giving them a dumbed down fire up with no penalty attached is not smart.

Then again, heck keep the sprint, and take away the penalty for fire up, make it fair.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 03:08:22 pm »

YAY Finally someone after days of complaining someone made a thread here, well i agree that you guys should just remove suppression resistance for i am just owning any suppression unit after they added the sprint but eh i dont care aslong they dont remove the sprint or make it ridiculusly overprised.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 03:25:56 pm »

We've already got it under discussion. Thanks for the post though.

It adds a flavour to PE but the stacking resistance of the Sgt. and the innate Supp. resistance of sprint combines into something uber.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 03:34:08 pm »

I agree, the flavor is nice, I have sprint on all my guys in my PE and i could understand at vet 2, i had no issue then but every PE coy has sprint now and its getting rather annoying.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 04:08:31 pm »

Well technically, airborne RR + Fireup makes it hard for any tank to retreat..

but.. you brought up a good point that they are the basic infantry, and they all can get the ability. if Elite infantry such as Assault grens, TBs, Flammens and Falls got the exact same sprint, i dont think it would even be questionable.

So i guess.. 1st suggestion: is to remove pg sprint, put it on elite infantry
2nd suggestion: is to remove the buffs of the pg gren from sprint, but still put it on all elite infantry.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 09:28:28 pm »

Remember the good ol' days when I got the exact same thing for less on all my vet2+ squads...... I miss those days....


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 09:58:22 pm »

Rifleman w/ BAR or Barbed wire or use tanks conservatively.

Learn to use combined arms.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 11:35:44 pm »

Quote from: cloud234 on April 02, 2011, 09:58:22 pm

Rifleman w/ BAR or Barbed wire or use tanks conservatively.

Learn to use combined arms.

they run thru bar suppression.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2011, 12:59:05 am »

Quote from: Tymathee on April 02, 2011, 11:35:44 pm

they run thru bar suppression.

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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2011, 01:18:03 am »

Quote from: Demon767 on April 02, 2011, 04:08:31 pm

So i guess.. 1st suggestion: is to remove pg sprint, put it on elite infantry
2nd suggestion: is to remove the buffs of the pg gren from sprint, but still put it on all elite infantry.

actually when ever i would purchase sprint it would be on elite infantry
and sprinting tankbuster, sprinting assault grens/flammen i would consider much more of a problem than sprinting normal pgrens (quick get into distance to always hit with schrecks, quick get in with close combat raping weapons)


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2011, 01:20:10 am »

Sprint costs a lot more for assault grens than regular ones. Not sure about the other ones.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2011, 02:13:19 am »

i saw in my pe company that the old vet sergant upgrade is still active means if you did not lost the squad you still have 25mp vet sergant

maybe someone should deselect the vet sergants in every company so that they need to be repurchased for the current pricing


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2011, 05:04:54 am »

Quote from: BigDick on April 03, 2011, 02:13:19 am

that is a common problem with every price change to be honest. They all suffer from this issue. I use to have 185 volksgrenadiers with 35 muni fausts or 5 US officers for the longest time ^^ until I decided to delete it to try something else.


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Re: [PE] Pz Gren Sprint

« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2011, 05:33:44 am »

they had made that with upgrades before by just deselect them

price change on unit itsself is an other thing because the unit need to be deleted (vet is gone etc.) but on upgrades its no problem because no vet is lost by deselecting them


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