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[PonySlaystation]

Nevermind the dropping part, that's not so important.

The problem is that commandos and rangers are useless without smgs and unlike airborne or fallshirmjägers they don't have access to weapons like G43 or lmgs. So I think it would make sense if they were 5 pop but then the smg upgrade increased the pop by 1.

[Demon767]

Nevermind the dropping part, that's not so important.

The problem is that commandos and rangers are useless without smgs and unlike airborne or fallshirmjägers they don't have access to weapons like G43 or lmgs. So I think it would make sense if they were 5 pop but then the smg upgrade increased the pop by 1.

wait.. what? neither airborne or fallschirmjagers have access to G43 and Lmgs.. and why are you putting axis weaponry in conjunction with allied infantry? especially static defensive weapons such as the G43 or lmgs which go against the build style of commandos and rangers as 'assault infantry'. wouldnt you most like to use Mp40s? oh waaiit Thompsons and Stens are better then the mp40...

[PonySlaystation]

Airborne infantry can buy lmgs
Fallschirmjägers can buy G43 or riflenades with a T2 unlock
these are facts.

Stens and thompsons are also more than twice as expensive. They could still be assault infantry, I just think it would be nice if you could combine smgs with rifles like you can do with G43 and mp44 by having one unit covering the other. They already have rifles implemented but the extra pop makes them less worthwhile.

[Demon767]

They are twice as expensive because they are twice as good.

I do not know where your coming from, they are from its beginnings Assault infantry. why change that?

I do not underatand what you mean by G43 and Mp44 covering eachother?

[spinn72]

Nevermind the dropping part, that's not so important.

The problem is that commandos and rangers are useless without smgs and unlike airborne or fallshirmjägers they don't have access to weapons like G43 or lmgs. So I think it would make sense if they were 5 pop but then the smg upgrade increased the pop by 1.

Gah.. In reference to the commandos part of that comment, i'm sure somewhere cloud234 is having a heart attack at the thought of someone saying vanilla commandos are useless.

I also never said that 5 pop AB or Rangers should have upgrades either. Purely benefitting from doctrine buffs makes them overpowered for their pop. 5 pop for smoke/fireup or any form of suppression breaker is just a bad idea in my opinion.

Also, Infantry Support for Infantry company might be what you're after. Riflemen have access to grease guns, zooks and smoke grenades as well as BAR's, grenades and sticky bombs. Allows for incredibly versatile infantry gameplay, not to mention it's a hell of a lot of fun!

[spinn72]

Demon, I think he means G43 slow + mp44 short range.
Even better, you should just use G43 + inc grenade, it's cheaper

[Demon767]

Demon, I think he means G43 slow + mp44 short range.
Even better, you should just use G43 + inc grenade, it's cheaper

awwkay i think i understand that,

considering that argument, Allies don't actually need that synergy to be effective, considering Thompson and stens will out dps when used in its proper role. They are fast moving and have smoke/fireup to close the distance to engage in their optimum role.