Pe Panther 3 as medium AT tank

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[Mysthalin]

Look at overall wins/losses for PE and compare them to the overall wins for the other factions.

I'm sure you'll find that they're all more or less so at an equal level. I've never had troubles winning as PE - if anything, the opportunities they have are actually better than anyone else's - frankly because of the speed they can muster in whatever they do.

[nugnugx]

Look at overall wins/losses for PE and compare them to the overall wins for the other factions.

You should know that wins/losses does not mean alot same as having vet 3 unit as  the deciding factor in those 2 things is player skill.

A good player can make even bad faction look good.

[Nijo]

So pe needs another Tank wich can go in an kill all stuff its facing? Imagin 2 ist and 2 of your Tank killers going in... Sounds total weird to the normal flanking pe style...
Its more like we or us style.

As i Said: i think pe is a faction wich Deals a lot of damage but cant take a lot.

~nijo~

[nugnugx]

Imagin 2 ist and 2 of your Tank killers going in...

It would require 40 pop and over 900 fu

Seems no different to any other things if i'd want to buy

Sounds total weird to the normal flanking pe style

lol you can flank with anyone, it's not a matter of faction but how you play

Its more like we or us style.

There is no 'style' today, each faction has same counters and/or mirrors.

Mysthalin and others who say that they don't want to have 'equal means' in different factions should be telling this 2 years ago, not today.

[Mysthalin]

Except I don't see KTs/Jagds in US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see G43s in US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see non-doctrinal SMGs in the US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see flamethrower infantry in the brits arsenal, nor do I see non-doctrinal artilery in the US arsenal... etc. etc.

The factions are still differentiated nug. You're just whining to get axis(PE) buffs because that's your primary faction.

[nugnugx]

Except I don't see KTs/Jagds in US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see G43s in US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see non-doctrinal SMGs in the US/Brits arsenal, nor do I see flamethrower infantry in the brits arsenal, nor do I see non-doctrinal artilery in the US arsenal... etc. etc.

Not everything but alot of stuff is in all factions

The factions are still differentiated nug. You're just whining to get axis(PE) buffs because that's your primary faction.

lol it's not , i play brits and pe

[kwiatekkek]

how about  we  give   AP amunition  upgrade  for an IST.
Say 2 uses 30 sec. / 80 secs recharge  / 60 MU. .


just an idea...

[PonySlaystation]

I vote for flamethrower kettenkrad.

[smurfORnot]

now if you could attach teller mine to ketten and ram it into tanks....

[Tymathee]

how about  we  give   AP amunition  upgrade  for an IST.
Say 2 uses 30 sec. / 80 secs recharge  / 60 MU. .


just an idea...

its an interesting idea. only issue i'd take with this is you're taking a tank that's all AI and putting AT capability on it, the dual purpose may be too much i dont know.

I vote for flamethrower kettenkrad.

that'd be fun. I want Wasps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5vNeVSZ8Q
http://www.tanksinworldwar2.com/pictures/canada/wasp-mk-ii-02.jpg

this could be fun for Axis
Fahrgestell Bren (e)
    A captured carrier of 1940, reused by the Germans with a 3.7 cm PaK 36 gun.
or
Panzerjäger Bren 731(e)
    Bren carriers captured by the Germans and fitted with a triple Panzerschreck mount, probably the first armoured vehicle to be fitted with anti-tank rockets.[

this would be nice for brits 3 inch mortar carrier
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Aust_3_inch_mortar_carrier%28AWM_134428%29.jpg

[Scotzmen]

Get it approved by the devs nug, and ill build your panther 3.

And someone needs to pm me what units won the contest as well...

[Groundfire]

Get it approved by the devs nug, and ill build your panther 3.

And someone needs to pm me what units won the contest as well...

Oh yeah.

lol, aint nuthin we can do without an animator. Did you ever figure out how to model mix that Ram so the UVmap would work on the chassis?

[Scotzmen]

Aye i did try and failed. I'll PM Eli wood about it. Maybe he can even take a look at it. Ill try again today when i finish school.

[Groundfire]

Aye i did try and failed. I'll PM Eli wood about it. Maybe he can even take a look at it. Ill try again today when i finish school.

Ok yeah, I completely forgot bout that stuff. just by ourselves, we can only do 1 step out of 3.

Getting any of those models working in game from the competition is just impractical atm without animator and a skinner.

[nugnugx]

Groundfire any inside info on a potential PE tank, how is the viewed - PE without it, problem or not ?

[DarkSoldierX]

Although it would be cool, why would PE need a med AT tank? They got a light at and a heavy at tank, why a med? A p4 like MBT is so much better.

[nugnugx]

Although it would be cool, why would PE need a med AT tank? They got a light at and a heavy at tank, why a med? A p4 like MBT is so much better.

The only medium tank they have is p4 ist which is AI so i don't think a MBT that can 'do it all' is needed because then the IST would be useless and there would be no need to buy it.

P4 and sherm are both AI and AT in one. So to keep things different PE can have 2 variants specialized. ist for AI and the other medium for AT.
(that's my view atleast)


The light tank is crap and panther is well panther, its a heavy that costs alot so you shouldn't bring it into that, you could also say that they got jagpanther,  but if allies got pershing why there is need for sherman and m10, see my point ?

Some like to play with 5 shermans and some with 2 pershings. In PE you don't have that choice currently to take a 5 medium tanks over 2 panthers.

[Tymathee]

thats why i proposed using the jagdpanzer, it's like a stug but better and its a focused at tank what would be the problem there? it would fit into the off color aspect of PE (jagdpanthers, hetzers, tons of halftracks)

[nugnugx]

thats why i proposed using the jagdpanzer, it's like a stug but better and its a focused at tank what would be the problem there? it would fit into the off color aspect of PE (jagdpanthers, hetzers, tons of halftracks)

It needs to have a turret otherwise it would be another hetzer.  Turretless are for ambushing in cloak in a defensive role and less in offensive, because you can only attack from front.

(take a notice Tym that allies have m18 and m10 where m18 cloaks and it's not turretless, and now with buffs it has same speed as m10)

[Tymathee]

and stugs and stuhs cloak? a jagdpanzer fits the axis philosophy of being strong defensively with high fire power, sacrificing mobility and sometimes health (marders, hetzers, tigers, king tigers, stugs, stuhs, etc)

the jagdpanzer doesn't cloak, has higher health than a stug, has good rotation and fits what you want.

tbh, a turreted tank doesn't fit pe, with the 50mm, and marders, a panther 3 type at tank doesn't seem to fit as well as a heavy fronted tank would.

This is the type of tank you can send out to engage at guns, take a few hits and save your marders from being targeted by the atgs.

It would also have good infantry accuracy to snipe at 'em rather than kill by aoe much like a stug but meh.