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Question: Is the Bar OP and need changes?
Yes - 15 (27.3%)
No - 35 (63.6%)
who cares, nugnug is the chosen one, do what he preaches - 5 (9.1%)
Total Voters: 54

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Mgallun74 Offline
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« on: May 05, 2011, 08:43:17 am »
well, answer.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 08:47:51 am »
Bar is fine. The hard part is keeping your squad alive long enough to get some decent amount of kills, to do that you need skills, so its fine.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 12:28:59 pm »
need...... more........ votes........
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 12:41:44 pm »
my comment was just /thread
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 01:02:57 pm »
  480mp 240mu vs 400mp 80mu you would think 480 and 240 would win hands down but thats not the case..

 Why not give STG44 better long range stats because it was used in both long and short range combat...

"First deployed in 1944, it proved to be a revolutionary weapon.  A StG44 equipped solider had a greatly improved tactical repertoire, in that he could effectively engage targets at long range across open terrain, or in close range urban fighting, as well as provide cover fire in all situations as a machine gun role.  Most gun parts  were constructed from steel stampings, but the weapon was very serviceable with reliable operation and accuracy. "

 I know the whole realism thing but this is not over the top just look at the MU price of the STG44 and i think it would be inline if it was not OP in game trials that is...
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 01:34:36 pm »
what's this 480 mp 240 mu you speak of?
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2011, 01:37:40 pm »
Quote from: Tymathee on May 05, 2011, 01:34:36 pm
what's this 480 mp 240 mu you speak of?

fully loaded storms maybe?

never mind, i have no idea wht he is talking about, most expensive stg44 units are 150mun etc.. even 4 man kch dudes cost less than smg rangers, so meh..
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 01:44:01 pm »
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  480mp 240mu vs 400mp 80mu you would think 480 and 240 would win hands down but thats not the case..
That's not how balance works.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 01:46:07 pm »
imao stg44 should be about 3x as good at long range as it is now and cost much more
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 01:47:24 pm »
BARs are not OP. Given that riflemen are such weak shit, BARs are priced just fine and... actually... are the riflemen's only REAL defense against other infantry. Yeah, it's really lame to have your pimped out grens get suppressed by pussy riflemen... but wtf were you doing charging those guys head on into BARs in the first place?
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 01:52:55 pm »
Quote from: Malgoroth on May 05, 2011, 01:47:24 pm
BARs are not OP. Given that riflemen are such weak shit, BARs are priced just fine and... actually... are the riflemen's only REAL defense against other infantry. Yeah, it's really lame to have your pimped out grens get suppressed by pussy riflemen... but wtf were you doing charging those guys head on into BARs in the first place?


Dude, they are pimped out Grens, kch and storms.. they are the coolest of cool. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2011, 02:05:50 pm »
Well yeah, they ARE the coolest of cool... but even the ultimate cool can be brought down by BAR herpes.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 02:09:06 pm »
Quote from: Malgoroth on May 05, 2011, 02:05:50 pm
Well yeah, they ARE the coolest of cool... but even the ultimate cool can be brought down by BAR herpes.

lol, ewwwwwwwwwwww
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 02:14:54 pm »
like i said in another post, they're really only as good as the help around it so if it's just a single squad you'll get pinned/suppressed. Crawl to yellow or green cover and recover. If they're not alone, just stay away, it's what the allies have to do with a lot of axis stuff.

Basically say i use SF already on my bars and i see KCH coming, that kch will tear that single bar squad up, same with mp44 storms, lmg gren may win, it's a toss up, rarely see that battle, mp40 volks will win 1v1, assault grens win 1v1, g43 pz grens may stalemate, havent seen that battle without one using SF or slow so i dont know.

So basically i just showed that most axis infantry with gun upgrades1 v 1 vs a bar squad with no SF will either win or stalemate.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2011, 02:30:55 pm »
Bar is absoltely fine lol.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2011, 03:08:47 pm »
Replying to earlier posts, I think a *seperate* doctrinal squad with long-range MP44s (maybe fully armed with Leader MP44s) as a sort of marksman unit. Idk

BARs, yeah, they more or less let rifles survive long enough to kill something. Garand's blow unless you have 2-3 squads blobbed together--wait, whats this, an MG42 pinning the blob I need to retain combat effectiveness? zomg... Wink but, er, BARs let you spread your shit out and still be able to fight off a reasonable count of enemy inf.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2011, 03:10:51 pm »
haha no. all your balance thread belong to me now
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2011, 03:12:26 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on May 05, 2011, 03:10:51 pm
haha no. all your balance thread belong to me now

but, i dont like you, and your p4 starts.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2011, 03:22:30 pm »
Last time i started with P4 starts was back a year ago when old HEAT rounds and improved barrels was in. now that tactic is not viable... cough lionel should adapt to TR cough
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2011, 03:25:15 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on May 05, 2011, 03:22:30 pm
Last time i started with P4 starts was back a year ago when old HEAT rounds and improved barrels was in. now that tactic is not viable... cough lionel should adapt to TR cough

man, guess i havent played against you in forever.. lol.
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