Scotzmen
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« on: June 02, 2011, 07:02:11 pm » |
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Storm tactics grants the whole squad leader rifles.
Does that mean they all get MP-44's or what?
And is it worth choosing?
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 07:09:07 pm » |
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They all gain K98s that look like MP44s. Someone did a calculation a while back, it's about 90% more dps at close and 10% worse at long
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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| Scotzmen
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 07:40:03 pm » |
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So basically panzer grenadiers are able to get in close and do some hurt? Obviously they'd drop to bars and brens etc.
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 08:43:15 pm » |
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Because obviously bars and brens cost munitions and a vanilla pgren squad doesnt.
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| Scotzmen
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 09:07:24 pm » |
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But storm tactics is a T4  |
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 09:39:03 pm » |
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But being a T4 doesnt include giving 215mp a free 80 mun worth of firepower. They still buff G43's and assault gren Mp44'4s.
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AmPM
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 09:49:57 pm » |
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Might need done looking into.
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| Scotzmen
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 10:18:27 pm » |
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Its not really an awesome T4 . It does supply buffs t your infantry, and 1 buff to a hummel and hotch. Kinda meh tbh.
P grenz with mp44's just won my admiration tbh.
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| cloud234
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 10:19:09 pm » |
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Gewehr normal one
| Zaxis S DPS = 7.27
| Zaxis M DPS = 4.44
| Zaxis L DPS = 2.3
# pe_kar_98k_rifle_leader.rgd
| Zaxis S DPS = 7.85
| Zaxis M DPS = 2.93
| Zaxis L DPS = 1.26
Interestingly, this makes Kar98k Rifle leader almost as good as G43!
The main difference being its free, com on on PE troops and has 15% more accuracy (1.15 modifier vs 1.0 modifier) than gewehr against infantry armour.
In fact, its actually BAD to buy G43 considering you can rape normal americans really easy upclose and to kill brits, u should use other weapons (i.e. incin assault / nades)
Is it imba? Nowhere as close as Pervitin Pills.
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| Scotzmen
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 10:40:19 pm » |
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Storm tactics with Inc assault = Close to rape? I shall use it!
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| CommanderHolt
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 11:11:49 pm » |
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Cloud, it also gives to G43s a 20% accuracy bonus at short range with 25% less penalty to moving accuracy (on top of the 15% T2) and no cooldown penalty.
How do they stack up then?
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 11:15:35 pm » |
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it's a really good t4 if u like to get in close, really great now cuz of sprint
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"I want proof!"
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"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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| cloud234
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 11:21:34 pm » |
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Cloud, it also gives to G43s a 20% accuracy bonus at short range with 25% less penalty to moving accuracy (on top of the 15% T2) and no cooldown penalty.
How do they stack up then?
That's a good point but the whole idea is that you use charges against people without munitions or use against people charging you. Having G43s with 20% more accuracy increases the DPS significantly but it still costs munitions. Its better to take assault incin/nade to take out buildings imo. Besides, I spam P4 ISTs on my PE account. Why bother with infantry when P4 IST kills everything inf-based lol. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 11:35:13 pm » |
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That's a good point but the whole idea is that you use charges against people without munitions or use against people charging you. Having G43s with 20% more accuracy increases the DPS significantly but it still costs munitions. Its better to take assault incin/nade to take out buildings imo. Besides, I spam P4 ISTs on my PE account. Why bother with infantry when P4 IST kills everything inf-based lol.
nothing surprising, all PE companys should have 4 Ists minimum anyway |
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| panzerman
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2011, 11:44:41 pm » |
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i have 0...
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| Scotzmen
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2011, 11:47:06 pm » |
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I have 0 as-well. Its all Panzer grenadiers in half tracks. Every 1 in 2 squads has G-43s and every squads has Incendiary assault grenades. Even though there not hard counters to Elite infantry, half tracks help when there suppressed.
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| BigDick
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2011, 03:50:40 am » |
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i have a company with 0 ISTs and a company with 1 IST currently
according your question
i had a stormtactics company (switched to it 2 times) with incendiary assault and i was not that impressed
i switched to dual T3 then using hotchkiss (unfortunately the incendiary barrage of hotch stukka sucks balls currently) and mortar smoke with assault flammen grens - they do much better when used with smoke and/or some in halftracks
add some ISTs if you want (but not needed i personally prefer to spend the fuel for marders) and you do much better imho
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nugnugx
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2011, 03:53:13 am » |
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Storm tactics grants the whole squad leader rifles.
Does that mean they all get MP-44's or what?
And is it worth choosing?
As a long term user of storm tactics i can tell you that pgrens get free g43 without slow. G43 with storm tactics is better than the free leader rifle because it gets buffed even further. So you can get free g43s on all pgrens or buffed g43 which are even better. (i personaly used buffed g43 because they are real nice with the t4) |
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| cloud234
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 03:56:35 am » |
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Does it bring the DPS anywhere close to a "cheap man's STG44"? Heh.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 04:04:47 am » |
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Does it bring the DPS anywhere close to a "cheap man's STG44"? Heh.
Nope , it's a cheap man's g43. Same short range DPS of 8 without slowing. You can rush unupgraded inf but vs bars or tommy rangers getting close means death. |
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