G43 suppression bug

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[nugnugx]

Ability was used but commandos were not suppressed and slow also didn't work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2fm8MO_KBg


I would check this also with other units.

[Unkn0wn]

You expected your suppressed 2 man G43 squad to insta suppress the commando squad? They died before they could properly get the suppression going. This is not a bug.

[PonySlaystation]

plus the commandos had just used smoke.

[nugnugx]

You expected your suppressed 2 man G43 squad to insta suppress the commando squad? They died before they could properly get the suppression going. This is not a bug.

Suppression instantly kicks in when you press the button,  it is a bug.Commandos should get suppressed at the same moment when yellow floating text shows.(they did not get slowed either)

 I can provide replay with properly working g43 if needed.

[Unkn0wn]

It's not, quit being silly.

How about you do it over in a proper set-up with commandos (without activating smoke) running at a non-suppressed, full health, G43 squad.

[Rudy-sanErik]

i use slow all the time and works fine for me 

[Tymathee]

ok, if they weren't slowed, what was that icon above their head? it looked like they got slowed but  didn't get suppressed cuz he hit smoke as soon as he saw it, which breaks suppression.

[brn4meplz]

The squad got raped. Try it without the G43's dying in .7 of a second. The ability isn't intended to be a magical slow that grips from beyond the grave

[8thRifleRegiment]

+1

[Groundfire]

Ha, your kidding right nug?

Just like BAR supp. fire, increased suppression abilities just boost a gun's suppression so that it makes the target hit their suppression threshold faster (then they are suppressed)

If you die 2 seconds after popping the ability then it will not work.

[8thRifleRegiment]

Thats why it takes time to do BAR supresssion. The new vcoh patch didnt make g43 suppression instantanious it just made it very potent very fast, but not .7 secondes fast

[nugnugx]

ok, if they weren't slowed, what was that icon above their head? it looked like they got slowed but  didn't get suppressed cuz he hit smoke as soon as he saw it, which breaks suppression.

I was the one using commandos, smoke was used before running to them. When they were slowed they were out of smoke

Try it without the G43's dying in .7 of a second. The ability isn't intended to be a magical slow that grips from beyond the grave

For abilities of this type it does not matter if 1 guy with 1 hp suppressed is using it or full squad because full effect is in effect at the same moment when you press the button and target the squad with the reticle.

Just like BAR supp. fire, increased suppression abilities just boost a gun's suppression so that it makes the target hit their suppression threshold faster (then they are suppressed)

No it's different to bar supp fire.  Just like old slow instantly affected target , now the suppression instantly affects target.

he new vcoh patch didnt make g43 suppression instantanious it just made it very potent very fast

It is instantenous.





Watch this vs other inf,  at the moment of using ability when the floating text appears they get instantly suppressed and slowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhgckzE926w



That's why vs commandos it's a bug.


Would make no other sense if the suppression was NOT instantenous because having 5 second slow would be a very big nerf to g43 without the ability to suppress instantly.

[DarkSoldierX]

I was the one using commandos, smoke was used before running to them. When they were slowed they were out of smoke


For abilities of this type it does not matter if 1 guy with 1 hp suppressed is using it or full squad because full effect is in effect at the same moment when you press the button and target the squad with the reticle.

No it's different to bar supp fire.  Just like old slow instantly affected target , now the suppression instantly affects target.


It is instantenous.





Watch this vs other inf,  at the moment of using ability when the floating text appears they get instantly suppressed and slowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhgckzE926w



That's why vs commandos it's a bug.


Would make no other sense if the suppression was NOT instantaneous because having 5 second slow would be a very big nerf to g43 without the ability to suppress instantly.

You are wrong. The only thing here that doesn't make sense is slow not working, slow IS instantaneous, the suppression effect isn't.

Read the RGD's, It is called Warning Shot (idk why)

2x suppression
0.1 cool down
0.15 damage

G43 isn't a instantaneous suppress on target like old tankshock was.

[nugnugx]

, slow IS instantaneous, the suppression effect isn't.

watch the link. Suppression is instantenous. You cannot say otherwise because that is a fact.

[PonySlaystation]

watch the link. Suppression is instantenous. You cannot say otherwise because that is a fact.

It's not instant, the devs just said otherwise, weren't you listening? The ability increases their suppression so they have to actually fire their weapons to be able to suppress.

The video you provided weren't with commandos, The G43 holders were not suppressed and the Allied units had no smoke to protect them from suppression.

[nugnugx]

It's not instant, the devs just said otherwise, weren't you listening? The ability increases their suppression so they have to actually fire their weapons to be able to suppress.

If someone said to you that sun is blue would you believe them even though you see it as white with your own eyes? 

The video you provided weren't with commandos

vs all other infantry it is,
logic dictates that if it is not only on 1 unit it must be a bug.


 

The G43 holders were not suppressed and the Allied units had no smoke to protect them from suppression.

This has nothing to do in this specific case while using this ability.


If it's not a bug then the only explanation can be that the 1 guy which was not smoked, allowed to be targeted and ability was used before everyone went out of smoke and somehow the ability was neglected- which in itself might be a bug.

[DarkSoldierX]

Looking at the RGD's, there is a subaction under action_3 under start_target_actions that adds 0.5 suppression to the target. They still have to be able to target them first. Thats no bug.

Congrats nugnug you might have just nerfed G43 suppress if the dev's deem that 0.5 suppression a bug.

[Demon767]

LOL!

[lionel23]

I have to agree with Burn after watching the first youtube video.. the axis were suppressed and down to 2 man and died in under .7 seconds roughly... not even BAR suppression is instantaneous and they were suppressed shooting at guys who had just reset their suppression threshold and some of the squad was out of the smoke cover...